> Having worked with many of my fellow graduate students to try to teach CS concepts to incoming students without any CS background my conclusion here is that w

> Having worked with many of my fellow graduate students to try to teach CS concepts to incoming students without any CS background my conclusion here is that we simply don't know how to teach computer science. My suspicion is that many people who learn CS usually do it inspite of attempts to teach them, not because of instruction. I have this assumption about almost all organized learning at this time. I think that's also why things like IQ/g/etc. look so important - they make the learning "in spite of" more tractable, because you have enough of a buffer to deal with even really bad information at a very fast pace, and because high IQ students will make one's education methods look good even if they're terrible.