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Venus also has no magnetic field. It has much stronger gravity as well, requiring larger rockets to take off from it, and it is quite difficult to mine resource

Venus also has no magnetic field. It has much stronger gravity as well, requiring larger rockets to take off from it, and it is quite difficult to mine resources from due to the high temperatures and pressures at the surface, meaning all materials for a colony would need to be sent from Earth.

dogma1138 10y ago
Venus has an induced magnetic field which while isn't as good as what we got on Earth, is better than what you have on Mars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#Induced_magnetosphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#Induced_ma... Additionally the current theory is that if Venus will be sped up to below 56h per rotation it would regenerate it's intrinsic magnetic field which should be near earth levels. And while Venus does have higher gravity than Mars, it's still lower than Earth's, and overall the delta V for venus insertion orbit is slightly lower than what you need for Mars.
- raverbashing 10y ago
  Easier to live in Mars with some radiation and lower temperatures (and pressure) as opposed to 400C and acid rains of Venus
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    No one is suggesting living on the surface until it's terraformed, the dense atmosphere allows for easy construction of floating platforms. As far as terraforming goes, Venus is just a better candidate for long term colonization.
- FireBeyond 10y ago
  "Additionally the current theory is that if Venus will be sped up to below 56h per rotation it would regenerate it's intrinsic magnetic field which should be near earth levels." That's great and all, but how exactly do we realistically speed up the rotation of a _planet_?
  - dogma1138 10y ago
    One of the more "probable" and more or less energy sane suggestions would be using mass drivers to eject the atmosphere at high speeds to induce spin. The mass of the venusian atmosphere is high enough for this to actually work and still leave you a lot of atmosphere to work with, it will take 20-30 years but it still doable.
    - hinkley 10y ago
      And pointing those canisters at Mars or the moon. Once you've hit Venusian escape velocity you might as well move that atmosphere somewhere else that needs it. But compressing acidic gasses makes the corrosion problem worse, doesn't it? How do you deal with that?
      - richmarr 10y ago
        Nothing says "I love you" like super-compressed canisters of acid hurtling through space at interplanetary speeds :)
        hinkley 10y ago
        I think you have a good candidate for the Portal 3 story line there.
  - rbanffy 10y ago
    A fleet of masses attached to solar sails imparting a little bit of momentum as each one passes by. This is planetary engineering. It's not supposed to be fast. Unless, of course, you are a Kardashev II civilization.
  - baq 10y ago
    same way it actually slowed down: mess with the atmo.

dogma1138 10y ago

Venus has an induced magnetic field which while isn't as good as what we got on Earth, is better than what you have on Mars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#Induced_magnetosphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmosphere_of_Venus#Induced_ma... Additionally the current theory is that if Venus will be sped up to below 56h per rotation it would regenerate it's intrinsic magnetic field which should be near earth levels. And while Venus does have higher gravity than Mars, it's still lower than Earth's, and overall the delta V for venus insertion orbit is slightly lower than what you need for Mars.

raverbashing 10y ago
Easier to live in Mars with some radiation and lower temperatures (and pressure) as opposed to 400C and acid rains of Venus
- dogma1138 10y ago
  No one is suggesting living on the surface until it's terraformed, the dense atmosphere allows for easy construction of floating platforms. As far as terraforming goes, Venus is just a better candidate for long term colonization.
FireBeyond 10y ago
"Additionally the current theory is that if Venus will be sped up to below 56h per rotation it would regenerate it's intrinsic magnetic field which should be near earth levels." That's great and all, but how exactly do we realistically speed up the rotation of a _planet_?
- dogma1138 10y ago
  One of the more "probable" and more or less energy sane suggestions would be using mass drivers to eject the atmosphere at high speeds to induce spin. The mass of the venusian atmosphere is high enough for this to actually work and still leave you a lot of atmosphere to work with, it will take 20-30 years but it still doable.
  - hinkley 10y ago
    And pointing those canisters at Mars or the moon. Once you've hit Venusian escape velocity you might as well move that atmosphere somewhere else that needs it. But compressing acidic gasses makes the corrosion problem worse, doesn't it? How do you deal with that?
    - richmarr 10y ago
      Nothing says "I love you" like super-compressed canisters of acid hurtling through space at interplanetary speeds :)
      - hinkley 10y ago
        I think you have a good candidate for the Portal 3 story line there.
- rbanffy 10y ago
  A fleet of masses attached to solar sails imparting a little bit of momentum as each one passes by. This is planetary engineering. It's not supposed to be fast. Unless, of course, you are a Kardashev II civilization.
- baq 10y ago
  same way it actually slowed down: mess with the atmo.