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For the last few years, I've been telling people I believe I'd live forever, and they always ask me why I'd want to. I don't have a great reason (lets not make

For the last few years, I've been telling people I believe I'd live forever, and they always ask me why I'd want to. I don't have a great reason (lets not make this about that). Point of story, entropy in our universe will eventually cause its end, and I don't want to die then either. Ideally, before the cold death of the universe, I want to transition my body into a higher dimensional body. So I'm entirely in support of your argument. However, digitizing our brains, or any other transition away from the status quo right now is not only not currently possible, it is currently unimaginable. There have been no prototypes, no significant research, not even any real theories on how to accomplish such a task. Even repairing/repurposing parts of our current bodies is a giant challenge. Hell, we can't even appropriately map our biology or understand how they actually work. Transitioning away from biology will take time. However, until that day, we need to stay alive and we need more resources. Becoming multi-planetary is just one "safe"(predictable) step towards the future you would prefer.

AndrewKemendo 10y ago
Well, no time like the present to start working on it then! So maybe instead of sinking billions into a dead-end. We put billions into AGI. I know that's what I'm doing.
shiny 10y ago
I've often thought about this... is it really possible to live forever? Or does entropy (along with other factors like the accelerating rate of expansion of the universe) demand that at some point it'll all come to an end, regardless of how smart our AI offspring eventually become?
- yazaddaruvala 10y ago
  You're right that our universe will come to an end. However, for me, entropy isn't a show stopper. Its just a resource time bomb waiting to be diffused, or run away from. At a "smaller" scale, - Previously, our rivers have dried, and our crops turned to dust. - Our planet will eventually run out of resources. - Our solar system will eventually get consumed by the sun. - Our galaxy will eventually shrink into its central singularity. Whenever we come across a resource time bomb, the final option has always been and will always been to migrate away. The only question has been, "where should we go?". But aren't there potentially: - infinite parallel universes? - infinite higher dimensions? - infinite recursive simulations? However, infinite sounds like a lot, and maybe there are only a finite number of each of the above, but I don't think it'll matter. We can't keep beating time. Eventually the entropy time bomb will go off before we are able to solve its riddle. The only thing I want, is that before that day comes, I want to have beaten it a few times. Shown entropy who its master is. Because on that day, I want to be happy for my long time advisory and proud to have been the master of time, even if the student finally surpassed the master and has gotten its long deserved win.
  - shiny 10y ago
    > the final option has always been and will always been to migrate away That's why I brought up the accelerating rate of expansion of space ... everything will be moving away from us so quickly that eventually we'll run out of places to migrate to.

AndrewKemendo 10y ago

Well, no time like the present to start working on it then! So maybe instead of sinking billions into a dead-end. We put billions into AGI. I know that's what I'm doing.

shiny 10y ago

I've often thought about this... is it really possible to live forever? Or does entropy (along with other factors like the accelerating rate of expansion of the universe) demand that at some point it'll all come to an end, regardless of how smart our AI offspring eventually become?

yazaddaruvala 10y ago
You're right that our universe will come to an end. However, for me, entropy isn't a show stopper. Its just a resource time bomb waiting to be diffused, or run away from. At a "smaller" scale, - Previously, our rivers have dried, and our crops turned to dust. - Our planet will eventually run out of resources. - Our solar system will eventually get consumed by the sun. - Our galaxy will eventually shrink into its central singularity. Whenever we come across a resource time bomb, the final option has always been and will always been to migrate away. The only question has been, "where should we go?". But aren't there potentially: - infinite parallel universes? - infinite higher dimensions? - infinite recursive simulations? However, infinite sounds like a lot, and maybe there are only a finite number of each of the above, but I don't think it'll matter. We can't keep beating time. Eventually the entropy time bomb will go off before we are able to solve its riddle. The only thing I want, is that before that day comes, I want to have beaten it a few times. Shown entropy who its master is. Because on that day, I want to be happy for my long time advisory and proud to have been the master of time, even if the student finally surpassed the master and has gotten its long deserved win.
- shiny 10y ago
  > the final option has always been and will always been to migrate away That's why I brought up the accelerating rate of expansion of space ... everything will be moving away from us so quickly that eventually we'll run out of places to migrate to.