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Adopting an alternative to Zuckernet is the exact opposite. Continuing to hand your life's data to Zuck is to throw your hands up. Begging your politician for a
by smokeyj 10y ago
Adopting an alternative to Zuckernet is the exact opposite. Continuing to hand your life's data to Zuck is to throw your hands up. Begging your politician for a little privacy from Zuck when strong encryption exists is to throw your hands up.
People care enough about privacy to complain about it but not enough to do anything. I don't have much sympathy for them.
- Nursie 10y agoGetting your democratic government to legislate protections is doing something.
- tjl 10y agoOne problem is that they collect "shadow" profiles of people who aren't even on the service. If someone who has your contact info is on the service, they'll start a profile of you based on that. Plus, there's many web sites that are connected to Facebook and send info back to it without you even knowing about it, just by having a Facebook share button on the page. It's very difficult to avoid having any of your data on Facebook's servers.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoAh, shadow profiles again. Maybe the real problem here is that people talk about "your data". There's no "your data" in a shadow profile of you. There's data about you. I have a feeling that talking about the data as if it belonged to the person it refers to makes people reach weird conclusions. I'm having problems with articulating clear examples, but I don't like the very concept of ownership of facts - whether they're algorithms or phone<->name associations.
- tjl 10y agoIn my mind, it's one thing if a Web site that I go to learnt about me based on my interactions and a whole another thing when people start correlating data across sites. That's what Facebook is doing with its stupid buttons on nearly every news site. Amazon knows a great deal about my buying habits but that makes complete sense. Facebook knowing what articles I read from the Globe and Mail and the CBC is something else.
- zigzigzag 10y agoWe're talking about WhatsApp here right? Which already uses strong encryption?
- thebakeshow 10y agoWhat does that have to do with privacy? Just because the data is encrypted doesn't mean it can't be harvested by FB
- zigzigzag 10y agoWhatsApp is end to end encrypted. Facebook/WhatsApp can't see the contents of the messages. It's the best technology available at the moment - there are no non-toy systems that also scramble metadata.
- lmm 10y agoWhatsApp claims to be end-to-end encrypted, but since it's closed-source, who knows what's actually going on.
- technofiend 10y agoShort of using tor I'm not sure anything else really can work. You can dump all the cookies, block all the javascript and use all the VPNs you want but ad companies are working very hard to break through those protections. And until there is a law forbidding them to do so, they'll just keep doing it.