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I assume you mean "in all practicality it will mostly mean a few more [workers] will be hired, and that it will be more difficult to get more [hours in your shi

by Naritai 10y ago

I assume you mean "in all practicality it will mostly mean a few more [workers] will be hired, and that it will be more difficult to get more [hours in your shift] than 8 hours a day." It's not clear to me, of course, why anybody who gets neither overtime nor equity would want longer than 8 hour shifts. Maybe because making other people richer is so much fun?

qq66 10y ago
No, it's to get more money... A ton of people who don't get overtime still want more hours.
jahewson 10y ago
You've misunderstood - the employees are already paid for overtime hours, but at the normal rate. Now that there will be a higher overtime rate, it can, in some cases make sense for businesses to hire more employees rather than to pay existing employees to work overtime. For employees who choose to work overtime, that's bad news.
edoceo 10y ago
It's because they need the money. If your job options are limited (few readers on HN know what this feels like) then any paid hours are better than none. A 10 hour shift means 10 hours of money. Now it will be 11 hours of money. Except your shift will be cut to 7h.
wtvanhest 10y ago
This may be a definition issue, so I'll give an example to explain it. If someone makes $10/hour and they work 8 hours, they make $80. If they work 10 hours at $10/hour here is the difference between overtime and not overtime: With Overtime - $10/hour X 8 hours + $10/hour X 1.5 (overtime pay) X 2 hours = $110 Without Overtime - $10/hour X 8 hours + $10/hour X1.0 (reg pay) X 2 hours = $100 The worker still gets paid for 10 hours, but because the first worker gets overtime, they make an extra $10. The reason overtime exists is to prevent managers from requiring workers to work 16 hour days etc.
mucker 10y ago
I'm actually appalled that so many people make comments just like you have and show an ignorance of basic economics and would also assume that everyone can _turn down_ work. Were you never a teenager? In fact these laws have made it prohibitive to higher local teen agers. Eventually, the trouble of hiring will overcome the initial capital outlay for robots (which can now even do berry picking). You are going to chase people out of work. Learn about the subjects you are discussing (farming and economics) before coming to wild conclusions.

by Naritai 10y ago

qq66 10y ago

No, it's to get more money... A ton of people who don't get overtime still want more hours.

jahewson 10y ago

You've misunderstood - the employees are already paid for overtime hours, but at the normal rate. Now that there will be a higher overtime rate, it can, in some cases make sense for businesses to hire more employees rather than to pay existing employees to work overtime. For employees who choose to work overtime, that's bad news.

edoceo 10y ago

It's because they need the money. If your job options are limited (few readers on HN know what this feels like) then any paid hours are better than none. A 10 hour shift means 10 hours of money. Now it will be 11 hours of money. Except your shift will be cut to 7h.

wtvanhest 10y ago

This may be a definition issue, so I'll give an example to explain it. If someone makes $10/hour and they work 8 hours, they make $80. If they work 10 hours at $10/hour here is the difference between overtime and not overtime: With Overtime - $10/hour X 8 hours + $10/hour X 1.5 (overtime pay) X 2 hours = $110 Without Overtime - $10/hour X 8 hours + $10/hour X1.0 (reg pay) X 2 hours = $100 The worker still gets paid for 10 hours, but because the first worker gets overtime, they make an extra $10. The reason overtime exists is to prevent managers from requiring workers to work 16 hour days etc.

mucker 10y ago

I'm actually appalled that so many people make comments just like you have and show an ignorance of basic economics and would also assume that everyone can _turn down_ work. Were you never a teenager? In fact these laws have made it prohibitive to higher local teen agers. Eventually, the trouble of hiring will overcome the initial capital outlay for robots (which can now even do berry picking). You are going to chase people out of work. Learn about the subjects you are discussing (farming and economics) before coming to wild conclusions.