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What I don't understand is who runs the actual streams? They require loads of bandwidth and are easy for law enforcement to target. They seem to be just standar

What I don't understand is who runs the actual streams? They require loads of bandwidth and are easy for law enforcement to target. They seem to be just standard HLS endpoints.

wodenokoto 10y ago
The Kiss network store their videos on googlevideo.com. Other common places to store these things are on vidlocker. I believe the business model is that the video service provides no search, making it hard for rights holders to be proactive, while 3rd party uploade and curate videos under the guise of "since it was on this other network we believed that license was taken care of (just like how YouTube tend to be responsible for licensing and not you, when you link to YouTube)
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  From what I read on a forum, the Kiss network rotates their videos across a large number of Google accounts. It's quite amazing how they manage that kind of infrastructure. What's more impressive is that when Google catches whiff of them, which they have done multiple times now, they're usually back up in a few days. If any of the Kiss devs are reading this, you should commercialize your stack, and aim it at people who want high availability personal video storage.
  - AdrianRossouw 10y ago
    plex just announced a cloud based version that runs off video stored on amazon drive.
  - milankragujevic 10y ago
    Back when I used to host pirated videos on Google, I used Picasa. I had a server with a GUI installed that I would download stuff onto, then drag into Picasa and upload it. After that I'd just use a bunch of proxy servers to request the stream from Google, and set up a redirector to send my users to the proper endpoints. Not that hard, just very labor intensive. AFAIK there are no automated bots / scripts that do this, just lots of people that drag&drop videos via VNC.

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What I don't understand is who runs the actual streams? They require loads of bandwidth and are easy for law enforcement to target. They seem to be just standar

by martinald 10y ago

What I don't understand is who runs the actual streams? They require loads of bandwidth and are easy for law enforcement to target. They seem to be just standard HLS endpoints.

wodenokoto 10y ago
The Kiss network store their videos on googlevideo.com. Other common places to store these things are on vidlocker. I believe the business model is that the video service provides no search, making it hard for rights holders to be proactive, while 3rd party uploade and curate videos under the guise of "since it was on this other network we believed that license was taken care of (just like how YouTube tend to be responsible for licensing and not you, when you link to YouTube)
- Cyph0n 10y ago
  From what I read on a forum, the Kiss network rotates their videos across a large number of Google accounts. It's quite amazing how they manage that kind of infrastructure. What's more impressive is that when Google catches whiff of them, which they have done multiple times now, they're usually back up in a few days. If any of the Kiss devs are reading this, you should commercialize your stack, and aim it at people who want high availability personal video storage.
  - AdrianRossouw 10y ago
    plex just announced a cloud based version that runs off video stored on amazon drive.
  - milankragujevic 10y ago
    Back when I used to host pirated videos on Google, I used Picasa. I had a server with a GUI installed that I would download stuff onto, then drag into Picasa and upload it. After that I'd just use a bunch of proxy servers to request the stream from Google, and set up a redirector to send my users to the proper endpoints. Not that hard, just very labor intensive. AFAIK there are no automated bots / scripts that do this, just lots of people that drag&drop videos via VNC.