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Yes, excuse -- you need one to account for making stuff up ("the staff didn't respect him") based on nothing but your own irrational animus, aka bigotry. Don't

Yes, excuse -- you need one to account for making stuff up ("the staff didn't respect him") based on nothing but your own irrational animus, aka bigotry. Don't change the subject. Blathering in five paragraphs about irrelevancies does not justify your bogus and malicious assertion. Here is a free clue that might help you understand things, or not: in my personal experience apart from Mozilla, both at past jobs and from reading the news, when someone exits under duress at high level, a statement of few, vague, and neutral-sounding words is often part of the deal.

stephenr 10y ago
If the staff felt they needed to make your prior pilicital donations more widely known, I'm pretty sure some of them didn't respect you. Your words are insinuating that you were in fact forced to leave. In civilised countries we have things like unfair dismissal laws. But hey, 'Murica. Do what you want. Think what you want. I'm not changing any subjects - i tried to remind you of the original subject.
- BrendanEich 10y ago
  You made a false statement about me. Have the decency to admit it instead of doubling down. Obviously I didn't get appointed CEO with a plan to leave Mozilla as quickly as I did. This does not mean I was "forced". I resigned, I've said this many times on HN and of course, at the time, on my blog and in a message to Mozilla employees. That my sole official statement is open to interpretation is industry-standard, and its being vague does not give you license to make stuff up. No "staff" made my prior "pilicital donations" more widely known. Tim Chevalier had already quit Mozilla in 2013 (see https://tim.dreamwidth.org/1832202.html https://tim.dreamwidth.org/1832202.html). Your typo and the easily falsified reference to Tim demonstrate that you are phoning it in. Up your game or give it a rest.
  - gnarbarian 10y ago
    From my perspective You were the victim of a witch-hunt on a slow news day. Followed by a focused campaign against Mozilla by a dedicated group of troll-activists who knew where to put the most pressure via third parties. They knew how to make themselves appear larger than they really were. It's happened a few times since then but none were as successful as the attack on you. (Dropbox, Donglegate, Crockford, Palmer Luckey etc.) The troll's success with Mozilla has led them to attack other open source projects as well with small, loud mobs shaking down various projects on GitHub for fealty through codes of conduct and inane commits removing or editing things they perceive as offensive. I really dislike this trend in the tech industry. Software ought to be apolitical. There shouldn't be a conservative browser and a liberal one. Being a libertarian leaning conservative I run up against this kind of left wing xenophobia all the time. I worry it's only a matter of time before it happens to me as well. I hope this hasn't destroyed your career prospects for the future. Have you had trouble finding work since the incident? By the way I'm sorry for initially saying you were fired from Mozilla. A more nuanced description was warranted.
    - BrendanEich 10y ago
      Thanks for the kind words. Have you tried https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/ yet?
      - gnarbarian 10y ago
        Just installed it. Seems like a great idea to me.

stephenr 10y ago

If the staff felt they needed to make your prior pilicital donations more widely known, I'm pretty sure some of them didn't respect you. Your words are insinuating that you were in fact forced to leave. In civilised countries we have things like unfair dismissal laws. But hey, 'Murica. Do what you want. Think what you want. I'm not changing any subjects - i tried to remind you of the original subject.

BrendanEich 10y ago
You made a false statement about me. Have the decency to admit it instead of doubling down. Obviously I didn't get appointed CEO with a plan to leave Mozilla as quickly as I did. This does not mean I was "forced". I resigned, I've said this many times on HN and of course, at the time, on my blog and in a message to Mozilla employees. That my sole official statement is open to interpretation is industry-standard, and its being vague does not give you license to make stuff up. No "staff" made my prior "pilicital donations" more widely known. Tim Chevalier had already quit Mozilla in 2013 (see https://tim.dreamwidth.org/1832202.html https://tim.dreamwidth.org/1832202.html). Your typo and the easily falsified reference to Tim demonstrate that you are phoning it in. Up your game or give it a rest.
- gnarbarian 10y ago
  From my perspective You were the victim of a witch-hunt on a slow news day. Followed by a focused campaign against Mozilla by a dedicated group of troll-activists who knew where to put the most pressure via third parties. They knew how to make themselves appear larger than they really were. It's happened a few times since then but none were as successful as the attack on you. (Dropbox, Donglegate, Crockford, Palmer Luckey etc.) The troll's success with Mozilla has led them to attack other open source projects as well with small, loud mobs shaking down various projects on GitHub for fealty through codes of conduct and inane commits removing or editing things they perceive as offensive. I really dislike this trend in the tech industry. Software ought to be apolitical. There shouldn't be a conservative browser and a liberal one. Being a libertarian leaning conservative I run up against this kind of left wing xenophobia all the time. I worry it's only a matter of time before it happens to me as well. I hope this hasn't destroyed your career prospects for the future. Have you had trouble finding work since the incident? By the way I'm sorry for initially saying you were fired from Mozilla. A more nuanced description was warranted.
  - BrendanEich 10y ago
    Thanks for the kind words. Have you tried https://brave.com/ https://brave.com/ yet?
    - gnarbarian 10y ago
      Just installed it. Seems like a great idea to me.