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I agree woth this. I and my friends always wondered how so many Asians get accepted to top UK universities (with very high English-language requirements), when
by tomp 10y ago
I agree woth this. I and my friends always wondered how so many Asians get accepted to top UK universities (with very high English-language requirements), when they can barely speak a word of intelligible English.
Now I have a close friend from China, and the mistery is solved: others are doing their exams/essays/assignments for them.
Keep in mind though, this is likely a huge generalisation (not all Chinese cheat and other nationalities cheat as well), and I put more than half of the blame on the universities themselves (they earn a lot of money accepting these kinds of students), but long-term, it really dilutes the value of this education in my eyes.
- WhitneyLand 10y ago>>this is likely a huge generalisation... Ya think? Sorry man I wouldn't be profiled as a cheater like that due to race or citizenship.
- brbsix 10y agoI have nothing to say about profiling individuals but cheating appears to be a huge issue among international students. Per the WSJ [0]: Public universities in the U.S. recorded 5.1 reports of alleged cheating for every 100 international students, versus one report per 100 domestic students Faculty singled out Chinese students in particular. [0]: http://www.wsj.com/articles/foreign-students-seen-cheating-more-than-domestic-ones-1465140141 http://www.wsj.com/articles/foreign-students-seen-cheating-m...
- barry-cotter 10y agoI live in China. I have not made any effort to learn about plagiarism or impersonating people at exams in the four years I've been here. I know one Chinese person who sat an English language proficiency exam for her cousin, another whose Bachelor's thesis was almost entirely plagiarised. I met a Canadian guy who did a Master's degree in econometrics at Tsinghua (top 3 university in China). Apparently plagiarism was rampant. On a more anecdotal level one of my fiancee's friends was dating a guy who sold SAT answers for a while. I have a couple of friends who teach at international high schools here in Shanghai. It takes quite a long time to get through to the students that plagiarism is not okay and is taken seriously. By the way no one brought up race in this thread until you did.
- WhitneyLand 10y agoThat's interesting - I'm surprised to hear so many first hand accounts. If it is widespread it's especially unfortunate considering there's already some controversy around the high numbers of asian applicants. Btw, I only mention race because it is a central topic of the article.
- tomp 10y agoI'm sure others were cheating as well, but it wasn't as blatantly obvious as with those Chinese who didn't even speak English. So I'd say being fluent in English is a good way to avoid being profiled this way.
- bitter-pill 10y agoWow a tad racist eh? How about this, I wonder how whites get in to top schools as they have lower GPAs, lower SAT, lower activities, etc. than their asian counterparts. I put more than half the blame on the universities and their "DIVERSITY" BS.... Long term it really dilutes the value of education in my eyes...
- sp527 10y agoStrong username to post content ratio.
- strugglefun 10y agoAre you using n-grams or ?