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seriously? (seriously seriously)? It depends on if you're okay with the chinese having a backdoor, at the firmware level. (to the tune of '//gotroot!!' in t

seriously? (seriously seriously)? It depends on if you're okay with the chinese having a backdoor, at the firmware level. (to the tune of '//gotroot!!' in the source code, and dropping to root.) if you're okay with it, you have a LOT more options than if you aren't. perhaps if we start having dedicated routers and networks for the backdoored insecure stuff they'll start realizing that at the end of the day they're being pretty fucking obvious. no comment on other governments stuff. if they're there, at least they aren't obvious.

pasbesoin 10y ago
You got voted down (not by me), but I guess that is something to consider -- if/as a particular device is not completely open.
errantspark 10y ago
I'm curious to see this for myself, do you have a source?
- logicallee 10y ago
  https://www.google.com/search?q=As+for+the+backdoor+in+Orange+Pi https://www.google.com/search?q=As+for+the+backdoor+in+Orang... (honestly, if it were invisible I wouldn't care. it's just sloppy. I also think all governments should collude and there should be like world peace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - meanwhile they should fear for their people, and have to nominally follow constitutions. I guess I can keep dreaming though.)
  - Gibbon1 10y ago
    Not sure but I assume that the Octavo Systems OSD3358 uses the same parts as the BBB core processor/memory/misc. Which means at least you can load the same firmware as a BBB. Which leaves you with the same trust issues as a regular BBB. If that's not true then all bets are off. Me I'd be more worried about the WiFi module, thought stopping to think, if the WiFi module driver isn't open source that's a worry too.
    - kbaker 10y ago
      The WiFi module is also a TI chipset, so same trust issues as the AM3358. The wifi driver is open source, however with a binary blob for WiFi and Bluetooth firmware.
bsder 10y ago
I upvoted you in spite of your tone, because your statements are not undue. The AllWinner stuff is concerning because they weren't exactly transparent about things. However, the Octavo stuff looks like your bog-standard chips from BeagleBone/TI just all smashed onto the same substrate. You could decap the module and see if that's true.
- logicallee 10y ago
  I don't know if the threading makes it less than obvious, but I was simply answering this question: >OT, sort of, but a while back I saw one of these... "Pi-like" boards that had two Ethernet ports. It also had significantly more horsepower. I'm wondering what might be recommended choices at this point for someone looking for an inexpensive, wired MITM / Firewall platform. There are a lot of very interesting, very cheap boards!

pasbesoin 10y ago

You got voted down (not by me), but I guess that is something to consider -- if/as a particular device is not completely open.

errantspark 10y ago

I'm curious to see this for myself, do you have a source?

logicallee 10y ago
https://www.google.com/search?q=As+for+the+backdoor+in+Orange+Pi https://www.google.com/search?q=As+for+the+backdoor+in+Orang... (honestly, if it were invisible I wouldn't care. it's just sloppy. I also think all governments should collude and there should be like world peace ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - meanwhile they should fear for their people, and have to nominally follow constitutions. I guess I can keep dreaming though.)
- Gibbon1 10y ago
  Not sure but I assume that the Octavo Systems OSD3358 uses the same parts as the BBB core processor/memory/misc. Which means at least you can load the same firmware as a BBB. Which leaves you with the same trust issues as a regular BBB. If that's not true then all bets are off. Me I'd be more worried about the WiFi module, thought stopping to think, if the WiFi module driver isn't open source that's a worry too.
  - kbaker 10y ago
    The WiFi module is also a TI chipset, so same trust issues as the AM3358. The wifi driver is open source, however with a binary blob for WiFi and Bluetooth firmware.

bsder 10y ago

I upvoted you in spite of your tone, because your statements are not undue. The AllWinner stuff is concerning because they weren't exactly transparent about things. However, the Octavo stuff looks like your bog-standard chips from BeagleBone/TI just all smashed onto the same substrate. You could decap the module and see if that's true.

logicallee 10y ago
I don't know if the threading makes it less than obvious, but I was simply answering this question: >OT, sort of, but a while back I saw one of these... "Pi-like" boards that had two Ethernet ports. It also had significantly more horsepower. I'm wondering what might be recommended choices at this point for someone looking for an inexpensive, wired MITM / Firewall platform. There are a lot of very interesting, very cheap boards!