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I hope 'new Microsoft' continues to embrace open source and cross-platform - I'm very impressed and never would have imagined this direction a decade ago, eithe

I hope 'new Microsoft' continues to embrace open source and cross-platform - I'm very impressed and never would have imagined this direction a decade ago, either

kennell 10y ago
They are going in the right direction but i feel like they still have a long way to go before people in the Linux/OSX world start taking C# seriously and we see actual products.
- oblio 10y ago
  First of all they need to stabilize. There's still a lot of churn even for command line apps/server, let alone for making desktop apps.
- dblooman 10y ago
  Especially with all the hype around containers, C# is left in the cold. The deployment story would have to be as good on Linux for many to even consider production services
  - tracker1 10y ago
    I've been able to use several of the onbuild base images with C# projects.. given they weren't anything huge, but it's been pretty cool. Should only get better.
  - manigandham 10y ago
    The programming language has nothing to do with the deployment or containers.
drawkbox 10y ago
They will, because ultimately their new OS for developers is Azure. They do push you towards that but it is actually a good cloud system. Microsoft has moved lock-in further up to the cloud (just like everyone else AWS, Google) and the tools are so nice once visual studio is truly cross platform (not just vs code -- though nice competition to sublime/atom/etc) then a tool lockin.
- tracker1 10y ago
  I can imagine VS Code expanding to cover a lot of the VS use case via plugins though...
david-given 10y ago
Personally, I think it's all thanks to Oracle. When Microsoft suddenly realised that they were no longer the most hated IT company in the world, the shock was too much for them, and they just stopped trying any more. ... Seriously, I have, right now, just dropped out of Vim into VSCode to debug a C program, because the VSCode debugger is fantastic. Everything just... works. In fact, I'd drop Vim in a heartbeat in favour of VSCode if only the vim keybindings were better, but right now they're pretty terrible and my fingers get confused. (Mercurial integration would be nice too, but mostly I use hg from the command line so I don't mind.) I like the new Microsoft.

I hope 'new Microsoft' continues to embrace open source and cross-platform - I'm very impressed and never would have imagined this direction a decade ago, either

kennell 10y ago

They are going in the right direction but i feel like they still have a long way to go before people in the Linux/OSX world start taking C# seriously and we see actual products.

oblio 10y ago
First of all they need to stabilize. There's still a lot of churn even for command line apps/server, let alone for making desktop apps.
dblooman 10y ago
Especially with all the hype around containers, C# is left in the cold. The deployment story would have to be as good on Linux for many to even consider production services
- tracker1 10y ago
  I've been able to use several of the onbuild base images with C# projects.. given they weren't anything huge, but it's been pretty cool. Should only get better.
- manigandham 10y ago
  The programming language has nothing to do with the deployment or containers.

drawkbox 10y ago

They will, because ultimately their new OS for developers is Azure. They do push you towards that but it is actually a good cloud system. Microsoft has moved lock-in further up to the cloud (just like everyone else AWS, Google) and the tools are so nice once visual studio is truly cross platform (not just vs code -- though nice competition to sublime/atom/etc) then a tool lockin.

tracker1 10y ago
I can imagine VS Code expanding to cover a lot of the VS use case via plugins though...

david-given 10y ago

Personally, I think it's all thanks to Oracle. When Microsoft suddenly realised that they were no longer the most hated IT company in the world, the shock was too much for them, and they just stopped trying any more. ... Seriously, I have, right now, just dropped out of Vim into VSCode to debug a C program, because the VSCode debugger is fantastic. Everything just... works. In fact, I'd drop Vim in a heartbeat in favour of VSCode if only the vim keybindings were better, but right now they're pretty terrible and my fingers get confused. (Mercurial integration would be nice too, but mostly I use hg from the command line so I don't mind.) I like the new Microsoft.