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>Please do not do this. Webgl and Webrtc are fundamental technologies needed to efficiently do basic activities like process an image or send sound data to anot

>Please do not do this. Webgl and Webrtc are fundamental technologies needed to efficiently do basic activities like process an image or send sound data to another user. >fundamental technologies >basic activities >process an image or send sound data to another user. We must live in different worlds, those are not "basic" or "fundamental" to me. I'm not sure I've ever used either. >the AR/VR age You're overstating how important these technologies are. Maybe in 10 years but only time will tell.

odbol_ 10y ago
IPFS already has a peer-to-peer chat room that can share messages, files, and streaming videos without a central server. This means users have a way to share content without worrying that it could fall into the wrong hands or be censored by big entities like corporations or governments. And it all depends on tech like WebRTC. That kind of infrastructure is crucial to the freedom of information and therefore the freedom of global citizens. You will not realize we need it until it's too late. The revolution will not be televised, it will not be in your news feed, it will happen in the streets and in the minds of citizens, and we need to prepare ourselves with the proper tools for that time, because it is coming sooner than you think.
- swsieber 10y ago
  I would be interesting to make a browser where these things are by default unloaded plugins with the ability to detect when they are needed. Then the best of both worlds are present... no? Some people wish they didn't have to pay the costs for these things because they never use them.
  - matthewmacleod 10y ago
    What cost do you think is being paid that would be mitigated by the complexity of a plugin system?
  - diggan 10y ago
    I think you would like Beaker Browser (https://github.com/pfrazee/beaker https://github.com/pfrazee/beaker) that comes with out-of-the-box support for normal HTTP, Dat and IPFS
- nialv7 10y ago
  You are misunderstanding. WebRTC itself already needs a central server. Also, what you described is certainly a good thing. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't _have to_ be done in a browser.
seangrogg 10y ago
I'm sorry that you've never used them, but I most certainly have for various projects. I can't use - much less recommend - any product that breaks stuff that I've built both personally and professionally.

odbol_ 10y ago

IPFS already has a peer-to-peer chat room that can share messages, files, and streaming videos without a central server. This means users have a way to share content without worrying that it could fall into the wrong hands or be censored by big entities like corporations or governments. And it all depends on tech like WebRTC. That kind of infrastructure is crucial to the freedom of information and therefore the freedom of global citizens. You will not realize we need it until it's too late. The revolution will not be televised, it will not be in your news feed, it will happen in the streets and in the minds of citizens, and we need to prepare ourselves with the proper tools for that time, because it is coming sooner than you think.

swsieber 10y ago
I would be interesting to make a browser where these things are by default unloaded plugins with the ability to detect when they are needed. Then the best of both worlds are present... no? Some people wish they didn't have to pay the costs for these things because they never use them.
- matthewmacleod 10y ago
  What cost do you think is being paid that would be mitigated by the complexity of a plugin system?
- diggan 10y ago
  I think you would like Beaker Browser (https://github.com/pfrazee/beaker https://github.com/pfrazee/beaker) that comes with out-of-the-box support for normal HTTP, Dat and IPFS
nialv7 10y ago
You are misunderstanding. WebRTC itself already needs a central server. Also, what you described is certainly a good thing. But I'm pretty sure it doesn't _have to_ be done in a browser.

seangrogg 10y ago

I'm sorry that you've never used them, but I most certainly have for various projects. I can't use - much less recommend - any product that breaks stuff that I've built both personally and professionally.