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I was agreeing with the essay until I got to about the 75% mark, and it went off-tangent about how religion helps enable psychopathology, despite explicitly avo

I was agreeing with the essay until I got to about the 75% mark, and it went off-tangent about how religion helps enable psychopathology, despite explicitly avoiding the topic for most of the paper. (I should have taken the mention of "Indigo children" as a warning sign, despite the paper treating that as more of a kind of fashion rather than a religious concept.) It turns out that this page appears to be SEO content bait for a constellation of crack-pot sites dating from 2005, most notably "Signs of the Times" and 9/11 conspiracy theorists. http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/site_map_qfg.htm http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/site_map_qfg.htm

zitterbewegung 17y ago
Actually it looks like they have actual stolen content such as a stolen pdf book and the given article is basically cut and pasted from somewhere else. The rest is just self promotion of something completely different such as a conspiracy theory. Its really interesting that this actually got this far. From the website (The actual thing being promoted) QUANTUM FUTURE This name came to my mind in Florence on a sunny Saturday of June 9, 1990, while walking along Viale Niccolo Machiavelli up to Piazza Michelangelo. Together with the name, Quantum Future, there came a feeling of weight and of urgency. I decided that I should not waste my time any more doing what others consider important. I felt that certain ideas that were waiting some place in my mind for so many years must not be postponed. That there is nothing more important than them. And so I decided to venture a new project. I knew from the very beginning that such an excursion into unknown territories is better undertaken in a company rather than alone. And I remembered discussions that I had with Philippe Blanchard a few years ago in Bielefeld. I wrote to him, and my proposal was met with a most friendly response. The project has started. It is about Quantum and about Future. It is about Potential and about Actual.It is about Space and about Time. I want it to be also about Knowledge and about Mind, about Determinism and about Free Will. And about knowing and understanding of ourselves together with the outside world. I have chosen the picture by Rene Magritte to symbolize the project. There is an ocean, and over the ocean and under the sky, there is floating a granite rock that carries a castle on its top. The rock seems weightless. Or better: it is heavy, but gravity does not apply. I wish that one day the project will bring us closer to an understanding of our hidden powers that can make rocks float in mid-air.
anthonyb 17y ago
Why is it off tangent? It makes sense to me that systems like religion or government are easily subverted. I also read the "Indigo Children" part as being critical of the concept, ie. pandering to psychopaths. Not that they're not crackpots - the conclusion of the article is pretty wacky - but your criticism is a little off.
- DLWormwood 17y ago
  I know this is a late response, but... My concern is that the article felt like that for cases of institutional corruption, the article reasoned, "A, therefore C" instead of saying "A implies B, B implies C, therefore A implies C." The article didn't adequately give the reader reasoning or context for an anti-institutional slam out of the blue like that. (For religion, a few paragraphs discussing historical examples like the Inquisition or pedophile priests would have both strengthened the argument and smoothed out the narrative.)
  - anthonyb 17y ago
    An even later response :) That section comes right on the tail of discussing how pscyhopathy seems to be an inherited trait, and that there seems to be a lot of evidence, at least anecdotally, for children who have much of the same behaviours as psychopaths. So it doesn't seem that out of place to me. The anti-institutional 'slam' was just them pointing out that a lot of the religious doctrines seem to follow a psychopathic 'rationale', ie. here is the truth, now don't question it. My reading was that it was almost an epidemiological study on psychopaths subverting social organisations (since that's how they seem to work individually). Of course, the article is mostly anecdotal evidence, so it's hard to tell how seriously to take this, but it's certainly food for thought.

zitterbewegung 17y ago

Actually it looks like they have actual stolen content such as a stolen pdf book and the given article is basically cut and pasted from somewhere else. The rest is just self promotion of something completely different such as a conspiracy theory. Its really interesting that this actually got this far. From the website (The actual thing being promoted) QUANTUM FUTURE This name came to my mind in Florence on a sunny Saturday of June 9, 1990, while walking along Viale Niccolo Machiavelli up to Piazza Michelangelo. Together with the name, Quantum Future, there came a feeling of weight and of urgency. I decided that I should not waste my time any more doing what others consider important. I felt that certain ideas that were waiting some place in my mind for so many years must not be postponed. That there is nothing more important than them. And so I decided to venture a new project. I knew from the very beginning that such an excursion into unknown territories is better undertaken in a company rather than alone. And I remembered discussions that I had with Philippe Blanchard a few years ago in Bielefeld. I wrote to him, and my proposal was met with a most friendly response. The project has started. It is about Quantum and about Future. It is about Potential and about Actual.It is about Space and about Time. I want it to be also about Knowledge and about Mind, about Determinism and about Free Will. And about knowing and understanding of ourselves together with the outside world. I have chosen the picture by Rene Magritte to symbolize the project. There is an ocean, and over the ocean and under the sky, there is floating a granite rock that carries a castle on its top. The rock seems weightless. Or better: it is heavy, but gravity does not apply. I wish that one day the project will bring us closer to an understanding of our hidden powers that can make rocks float in mid-air.

anthonyb 17y ago

Why is it off tangent? It makes sense to me that systems like religion or government are easily subverted. I also read the "Indigo Children" part as being critical of the concept, ie. pandering to psychopaths. Not that they're not crackpots - the conclusion of the article is pretty wacky - but your criticism is a little off.

DLWormwood 17y ago
I know this is a late response, but... My concern is that the article felt like that for cases of institutional corruption, the article reasoned, "A, therefore C" instead of saying "A implies B, B implies C, therefore A implies C." The article didn't adequately give the reader reasoning or context for an anti-institutional slam out of the blue like that. (For religion, a few paragraphs discussing historical examples like the Inquisition or pedophile priests would have both strengthened the argument and smoothed out the narrative.)
- anthonyb 17y ago
  An even later response :) That section comes right on the tail of discussing how pscyhopathy seems to be an inherited trait, and that there seems to be a lot of evidence, at least anecdotally, for children who have much of the same behaviours as psychopaths. So it doesn't seem that out of place to me. The anti-institutional 'slam' was just them pointing out that a lot of the religious doctrines seem to follow a psychopathic 'rationale', ie. here is the truth, now don't question it. My reading was that it was almost an epidemiological study on psychopaths subverting social organisations (since that's how they seem to work individually). Of course, the article is mostly anecdotal evidence, so it's hard to tell how seriously to take this, but it's certainly food for thought.