> But I do know a fair amount (snip) Midwestern cities. I know what people in San Francisco picture when they think of the Midwest and there's no other way to

> But I do know a fair amount (snip) Midwestern cities. I know what people in San Francisco picture when they think of the Midwest and there's no other way to say it: they're wrong. And they've each got their (stuff) This is the common cargo-cult "me too" Midwest line of thinking. Unfortunatly, two half-functional "rapid" bus lines does not mean a city has "public transit". One or two neighborhoods with a vegan restaurant and some Bernie yard signs does not make a city "pretty liberal". A VC fund with a few hundred thousand dollars does not mean a city has a "startup ecosystem". I'm not knocking the Midwest -- I live here too, and the Midwest is trying really hard to pretend they have this stuff. But the size and scale doesn't even remotely compare. "City living" in the Midwest is a facade. Locals often can't tell the difference, because they've never experienced anything different. You might as well be telling Seattle folks, "Milwaukee has mountains too, just check out Mount Telemark!". Or listening to people try to pass off the Great Lakes as "third coast cities". There aren't enough eyerolls GIF's on the internet to cover the level of disconnect Midwesterners have between what were doing here, and what world-class cities are like. ---- The Midwest would do better to emphasis solutions they actually can achieve now, rather than constantly self-highlight the areas they are sorely lacking. These cities could try building dense urban affordable housing, or invest in better urban schools, or help care for and reduce their homeless populations -- things they could actually and easily beat SF on right now. ---- > I do know a fair amount about Indianapolis. (snip) people seem to think that Midwestern cities have all the cultural diversity of an anti-abortion rally. And that's really nothing more than ignorance. That is not a comparison in your favor, all things considered. https://www.google.com/search?q=mike+pence+abortion https://www.google.com/search?q=mike+pence+abortion