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> To prevent his employees from feeling uncomfortable should the government allow Eich to stop hiring gay employees? Oh god, don't give the US Supreme Court an

by byuu 10y ago

> To prevent his employees from feeling uncomfortable should the government allow Eich to stop hiring gay employees? Oh god, don't give the US Supreme Court any ideas >_> They already think corporations are people with religious rights, and that discrimination is a thing of the past. This wouldn't be much of a stretch for them at this point. ( You can already refuse to hire gay people (as well as outright fire them) in most states; but Mozilla is headquartered in a state where you can't. If anyone is interested, here is the map: https://mic.com/articles/121496/one-map-shows-where-you-can-still-be-fired-for-being-gay-in-2015#.6Axtan4Xa https://mic.com/articles/121496/one-map-shows-where-you-can-... )

smsm42 10y ago
> They already think corporations are people with religious rights No they don't. They think people, when organizing into corporations, do not lose their rights just because they did something together. Example: you have freedom of speech, and US Constitution and US laws recognize that. You can print a newspaper and freedom of speech protects you. Now, printing a newspaper is hard. So you ask a bunch of people to help you, and you call these people together "The New York Times Corporation". Is printing the newspaper together still covered as your free speech? The US Supreme Court thinks yes, it is. I think they are completely correct. To think otherwise would be to say people have free speech right, but only to the point where it actually matters - where they can speak so powerfully and loudly that the government and other people in power have to listen. In our modern world it is virtually impossible to achieve it without organizing - and so by pretending that after organizing people lose their rights that they had before would be to rob the First Amendment of its meaning and turn it into a sham, when you can only speak freely when it does not matter.

by byuu 10y ago

smsm42 10y ago

> They already think corporations are people with religious rights No they don't. They think people, when organizing into corporations, do not lose their rights just because they did something together. Example: you have freedom of speech, and US Constitution and US laws recognize that. You can print a newspaper and freedom of speech protects you. Now, printing a newspaper is hard. So you ask a bunch of people to help you, and you call these people together "The New York Times Corporation". Is printing the newspaper together still covered as your free speech? The US Supreme Court thinks yes, it is. I think they are completely correct. To think otherwise would be to say people have free speech right, but only to the point where it actually matters - where they can speak so powerfully and loudly that the government and other people in power have to listen. In our modern world it is virtually impossible to achieve it without organizing - and so by pretending that after organizing people lose their rights that they had before would be to rob the First Amendment of its meaning and turn it into a sham, when you can only speak freely when it does not matter.