3 ms·

My issue with firefox is mainly it's startup time. It's horrible. Edge and Chrome start instantly while firefox takes 20-30 seconds. Maybe its because I have pi

My issue with firefox is mainly it's startup time. It's horrible. Edge and Chrome start instantly while firefox takes 20-30 seconds. Maybe its because I have pinned tabs only in firefox since its my main browser and that I have more plugins there but it's still unresponsive and feels sluggish.

josteink 10y ago
> My issue with firefox is mainly it's startup time. I'm 'll try not to argue the details too much here, but at least I'll outline how I experience it: Firefox's start time may not be instant, but its quick enough and more importantly is consistent no matter how many windows and tabs I have. Starting Firefox does not impair the overall performance of my machine. Chrome presents an initial window pretty quickly, but its not done loading, and from there on it's slow until everything is loaded, and its startup gets progressively slower the more tabs and windows you have. And due to Chrome's multi-process implementation, this can lock up your machine because Chrome uses it 100% across all cores. That's bad IMO. The closest analogy I can think of is how Windows 95 booted and seemed to be "ready" back in the days, but then you had tons of background-processing slowing the machine down for another minute or so before things stabilised and the machine was actually ready. That's how I perceive Chrome's "quick" loading, and I find it genuinely annoying. Personally I much prefer the predictability of Firefox here. That aside: How often do you honestly restart web-browsers? Not questioning your answer or anything, I just find it a weird problem to have, so I'm genuinely curious :) Personally I only restart browsers when I reboot my machine. So for me, the metric that matters is time from reboot to having ready to use browser session. If that takes 20 seconds, or 25, I really don't care. That's 5 seconds once a month which I definitely wont worry over. How's your usage pattern since you think this is a big thing?
- staticelf 10y ago
  Recent versions of Firefox also have tabs as seperate processes but is just as slow to start as before. Chrome might take equal time to load (it does not on my machine) but it presents the user with a smoother experience. It doesn't feel laggy at all. I game a lot so I use to close down Firefox since it drains so much memeory and CPU. So I restart my browser a bit too often to not suffer from it. This has basically led me to start Edge more and more since it is the quickest of the three and drains the least performance of my computer. I honestly care about start time and if it's not going to improve I will leave firefox for chrome sooner or later (even if I do not wish to). But that is honestly not either the only issue Firefox has, it is laggy in rendering web stuff that actually surprises me. Agar.io for example, is laggy for me in Firefox but not in Chrome or Edge.

josteink 10y ago

> My issue with firefox is mainly it's startup time. I'm 'll try not to argue the details too much here, but at least I'll outline how I experience it: Firefox's start time may not be instant, but its quick enough and more importantly is consistent no matter how many windows and tabs I have. Starting Firefox does not impair the overall performance of my machine. Chrome presents an initial window pretty quickly, but its not done loading, and from there on it's slow until everything is loaded, and its startup gets progressively slower the more tabs and windows you have. And due to Chrome's multi-process implementation, this can lock up your machine because Chrome uses it 100% across all cores. That's bad IMO. The closest analogy I can think of is how Windows 95 booted and seemed to be "ready" back in the days, but then you had tons of background-processing slowing the machine down for another minute or so before things stabilised and the machine was actually ready. That's how I perceive Chrome's "quick" loading, and I find it genuinely annoying. Personally I much prefer the predictability of Firefox here. That aside: How often do you honestly restart web-browsers? Not questioning your answer or anything, I just find it a weird problem to have, so I'm genuinely curious :) Personally I only restart browsers when I reboot my machine. So for me, the metric that matters is time from reboot to having ready to use browser session. If that takes 20 seconds, or 25, I really don't care. That's 5 seconds once a month which I definitely wont worry over. How's your usage pattern since you think this is a big thing?

staticelf 10y ago
Recent versions of Firefox also have tabs as seperate processes but is just as slow to start as before. Chrome might take equal time to load (it does not on my machine) but it presents the user with a smoother experience. It doesn't feel laggy at all. I game a lot so I use to close down Firefox since it drains so much memeory and CPU. So I restart my browser a bit too often to not suffer from it. This has basically led me to start Edge more and more since it is the quickest of the three and drains the least performance of my computer. I honestly care about start time and if it's not going to improve I will leave firefox for chrome sooner or later (even if I do not wish to). But that is honestly not either the only issue Firefox has, it is laggy in rendering web stuff that actually surprises me. Agar.io for example, is laggy for me in Firefox but not in Chrome or Edge.