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For every person who says Chromium's developer tools are better than Firefox's, you can find another person who will say exactly the reverse. It's possible one

by rvern 10y ago

For every person who says Chromium's developer tools are better than Firefox's, you can find another person who will say exactly the reverse. It's possible one of the two positions is correct and the other is not, but I find it more likely that people are just used to particular developer tools and that there is no significant difference between the two. People get work done with Firefox and Chromium's developer tools equally, you just have to learn to use them.

apatters 10y ago
No, he shouldn't have to learn to use them. When open source fails this type of thinking is often why. Firefox makes a product and therefore should improve that product so that more people want to use it. Vendors in a market are rarely in a position to tell the customers in that market what they should and shouldn't do. We don't want them to be in that position either, even Mozilla. They have to improve their offering. I for one also think that Chrome's dev tools are better and am 100% in the camp of wanting to see Firefox gain market share.
- rvern 10y ago
  If the open source tools are worse than the other ones, then sure, they should be improved. But I have no reason to believe this is the case here.
- vectorjohn 10y ago
  I think you missed the point. I for one can't stand the chrome dev tools. I use Firefox largely because i prefer the dev tools there. So, the point is, it's possible there is no real difference and it just comes down to personal preference or what you're used to. At least, that was the commenter's point which you didn't address.
  - apatters 10y ago
    You could say the same about Coke vs Pepsi, but that doesn't stop either one from trying to maximize their market share. I think the dev tools in Firefox and Chrome are much more distinct from each other than Coke vs Pepsi, though. The last time I used the FF dev tools (which was admittedly over a year ago) they were much slower and their support for changing attributes on HTML tags inline was more limited. I think the Net tab had fewer features too but this is going back a while so my memory is fuzzy. Even if the only difference is personal preference, what's wrong with Firefox trying to accommodate more users' preferences?
    - pitay 10y ago
      Even if the only difference is personal preference, what's wrong with Firefox trying to accommodate more users' preferences? Neither of the comments you replied to said anything about 'Firefox trying to accommodate more users' preferences'. So I don't think they had anything against Firefox accommodating more users preferences. They were just saying what people prefer is different, some people like Chrome's web developer tools more, some people like the web developer tools in Firefox more.
kristopolous 10y ago
Depends what you are building. Chrome seems to handle ionic and cordova better but I use Firefox for everything else

by rvern 10y ago

apatters 10y ago

No, he shouldn't have to learn to use them. When open source fails this type of thinking is often why. Firefox makes a product and therefore should improve that product so that more people want to use it. Vendors in a market are rarely in a position to tell the customers in that market what they should and shouldn't do. We don't want them to be in that position either, even Mozilla. They have to improve their offering. I for one also think that Chrome's dev tools are better and am 100% in the camp of wanting to see Firefox gain market share.

rvern 10y ago
If the open source tools are worse than the other ones, then sure, they should be improved. But I have no reason to believe this is the case here.
vectorjohn 10y ago
I think you missed the point. I for one can't stand the chrome dev tools. I use Firefox largely because i prefer the dev tools there. So, the point is, it's possible there is no real difference and it just comes down to personal preference or what you're used to. At least, that was the commenter's point which you didn't address.
- apatters 10y ago
  You could say the same about Coke vs Pepsi, but that doesn't stop either one from trying to maximize their market share. I think the dev tools in Firefox and Chrome are much more distinct from each other than Coke vs Pepsi, though. The last time I used the FF dev tools (which was admittedly over a year ago) they were much slower and their support for changing attributes on HTML tags inline was more limited. I think the Net tab had fewer features too but this is going back a while so my memory is fuzzy. Even if the only difference is personal preference, what's wrong with Firefox trying to accommodate more users' preferences?
  - pitay 10y ago
    Even if the only difference is personal preference, what's wrong with Firefox trying to accommodate more users' preferences? Neither of the comments you replied to said anything about 'Firefox trying to accommodate more users' preferences'. So I don't think they had anything against Firefox accommodating more users preferences. They were just saying what people prefer is different, some people like Chrome's web developer tools more, some people like the web developer tools in Firefox more.

kristopolous 10y ago

Depends what you are building. Chrome seems to handle ionic and cordova better but I use Firefox for everything else