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This explains my disdain for almost everything Adobe on OS X. It's not just that Flash sucks on my Mac. It's that almost all their products suck... They're not

This explains my disdain for almost everything Adobe on OS X. It's not just that Flash sucks on my Mac. It's that almost all their products suck... They're not focused on OS X. And I'm not the only person: http://dearadobe.com/top_rated.php http://dearadobe.com/top_rated.php

cmelbye 17y ago
Reading the Acrobat Reader gripes makes me appreciate having a wonderful, lean PDF viewer (Preview.app) built into the operating system, and it actually fits the look and feel of the rest of the OS unlike Acrobat.
barrkel 17y ago
Change the framing of this for a second. Suppose instead of Apple, it was the government deciding which apps get approved, and which don't. Would you support the government to make the correct decisions, by fiat? Or would you rather a free market see opportunities in crappy applications, and produce better alternatives?
- asimjalis 17y ago
  The free market allows Apple the freedom to limit who can enter their app store, just as it allows me the freedom to limit which apps I approve of and buy.
- gabrielroth 17y ago
  Boy, that's a terrible analogy. What we're beginning to see in smartphones is a competition between different business models: one (Apple) that exercises a lot of control over the platform, and another (Android) that exercises very little control. We'll get to see how that plays out. That's the free market for you.
  - barrkel 17y ago
    And in a similar way, everybody has freedom of government, because they can just move to another country, right? Except it's often not that simple. People can be locked in in lots of different ways, and suffer at the hands of a dictator, one way or another.
- ahoyhere 17y ago
  If I could pinch and zoom the government, that'd be A-Okay by me. Hahahah. Apple is not the government, silly. But think, for a moment, what if the HN readers downvoting you were not HN readers… but the government? What then?
mgcross 17y ago
Flash is indeed slower on Mac - both plugin and authoring - but the 10.1 plugin seems to have closed the gap. Photoshop Mac definitely seems to perform better than it does in Windows.
wvenable 17y ago
Are their products really all that better on Windows?
- jpcx01 17y ago
  Yep. I can attest that Photoshop CS4 runs way better on my windows machine than Macbook Pro, and it even has lower specs. CS5 might be better (I hope), but at the moment everything Adobe ships on Mac is complete and utter trash in my opinion.

cmelbye 17y ago

Reading the Acrobat Reader gripes makes me appreciate having a wonderful, lean PDF viewer (Preview.app) built into the operating system, and it actually fits the look and feel of the rest of the OS unlike Acrobat.

barrkel 17y ago

Change the framing of this for a second. Suppose instead of Apple, it was the government deciding which apps get approved, and which don't. Would you support the government to make the correct decisions, by fiat? Or would you rather a free market see opportunities in crappy applications, and produce better alternatives?

asimjalis 17y ago
The free market allows Apple the freedom to limit who can enter their app store, just as it allows me the freedom to limit which apps I approve of and buy.
gabrielroth 17y ago
Boy, that's a terrible analogy. What we're beginning to see in smartphones is a competition between different business models: one (Apple) that exercises a lot of control over the platform, and another (Android) that exercises very little control. We'll get to see how that plays out. That's the free market for you.
- barrkel 17y ago
  And in a similar way, everybody has freedom of government, because they can just move to another country, right? Except it's often not that simple. People can be locked in in lots of different ways, and suffer at the hands of a dictator, one way or another.
ahoyhere 17y ago
If I could pinch and zoom the government, that'd be A-Okay by me. Hahahah. Apple is not the government, silly. But think, for a moment, what if the HN readers downvoting you were not HN readers… but the government? What then?

mgcross 17y ago

Flash is indeed slower on Mac - both plugin and authoring - but the 10.1 plugin seems to have closed the gap. Photoshop Mac definitely seems to perform better than it does in Windows.

wvenable 17y ago

Are their products really all that better on Windows?

jpcx01 17y ago
Yep. I can attest that Photoshop CS4 runs way better on my windows machine than Macbook Pro, and it even has lower specs. CS5 might be better (I hope), but at the moment everything Adobe ships on Mac is complete and utter trash in my opinion.