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It's hard to say exactly what "protecting the internet itself" really means. And besides, if Cloudflare can offer this protection to both bad apples and to legi

It's hard to say exactly what "protecting the internet itself" really means. And besides, if Cloudflare can offer this protection to both bad apples and to legitimate journalists, then they never even have to make that choice. It'd just be a false dichotomy. I appreciate your concerns in the sense that the web is no longer decentralized. You might be interested in http://zeronet.io/ http://zeronet.io/, which is at least an interesting attempt in encouraging decentralization. But let's face it. Cloudflare is hardly forcing the rest of the web into centralization. They're just helping to protect people that sign up for it, regardless of who they are. They're not here to judge who stays up or not. I feel like that is more in the spirit of the internet than anything. If Krebs worked with Cloudflare when they had made their offer, I don't think his website would have been down. He's using Project Shield now. And that's fine too.

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kefka 10y ago
If I were subject to multiple insults, on stage, by the Cloudflare CEO, I'd sure as hell stay away. There is no good that can come from a dialogue from such a bad actor as he is. And I can only combine his direct insults on stage (Whereas Krebs was directed at the service, not the man) with CF's insistent take on Tor. They are a bad actor, bar-none.
- striking 10y ago
  > multiple insults, on stage, by the Cloudflare CEO Interesting. Do you have a source for that? I'd like to check it out.
  - kefka 10y ago
    eastdakota (CEO of cloudflare) posted this: ____________________________________________ Yes, you can see Brian's critique of us here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5vJyI_HcU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5vJyI_HcU Skip to minute 19:35. Then skip to the Q&A at minute 45:00 to hear my response. ____________________________________________ He repeatedly badgers Krebs on "why didnt you respond to my emails to meet", to the point they nervously laugh/cough on stage. "Who needs to actually ask questions, as a journalist?", said eastdakota (https://youtu.be/wW5vJyI_HcU?t=2887 https://youtu.be/wW5vJyI_HcU?t=2887). This was what got me. I expect better composure from a CEO than childish and churlish jabs. (edits were purely for formatting and separating eastdakota's writing from mine.

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kefka 10y ago

If I were subject to multiple insults, on stage, by the Cloudflare CEO, I'd sure as hell stay away. There is no good that can come from a dialogue from such a bad actor as he is. And I can only combine his direct insults on stage (Whereas Krebs was directed at the service, not the man) with CF's insistent take on Tor. They are a bad actor, bar-none.

striking 10y ago
> multiple insults, on stage, by the Cloudflare CEO Interesting. Do you have a source for that? I'd like to check it out.
- kefka 10y ago
  eastdakota (CEO of cloudflare) posted this: ____________________________________________ Yes, you can see Brian's critique of us here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5vJyI_HcU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW5vJyI_HcU Skip to minute 19:35. Then skip to the Q&A at minute 45:00 to hear my response. ____________________________________________ He repeatedly badgers Krebs on "why didnt you respond to my emails to meet", to the point they nervously laugh/cough on stage. "Who needs to actually ask questions, as a journalist?", said eastdakota (https://youtu.be/wW5vJyI_HcU?t=2887 https://youtu.be/wW5vJyI_HcU?t=2887). This was what got me. I expect better composure from a CEO than childish and churlish jabs. (edits were purely for formatting and separating eastdakota's writing from mine.