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You know what's scarier than anything else happening these days? The fact that showing even the slightest hint that one holds the wrong opinions can cost you yo

You know what's scarier than anything else happening these days? The fact that showing even the slightest hint that one holds the wrong opinions can cost you your job. Note that I'm not endorsing any side or candidate in my argument here (I take issue with both of them.) What I don't understand is how people can contribute to this situation and still think we live in a free country.

drivingmenuts 10y ago
> Note that I'm not endorsing any side or candidate in my argument here (I take issue with both of them.) What I don't understand is how people can contribute to this situation and still think we live in a free country We're free to speak as we choose, however, the flip side is that we must also accept that there are sometimes consequences for doing so. Being a racist or a misogynist is a thing we are. A job is just a thing we do. Finding a new job is far, far easier than changing the fundamental building blocks of our selves. If Luckey loses his job, it will be because society has said "we don't like what you said and here's the consequence of that." If not, well, lucky him.
- maxharris 10y ago
  If Luckey loses his job, it will be because society has said "we don't like what you said and here's the consequence of that." "Society" can do that? Who holds "society" accountable for right and wrong? (I need not remind you of how some societies have done vicious things in the past.)
  - drivingmenuts 10y ago
    Yep, society can do that. German society once said "kill all the Jews" and the rest of society said "No." We, collectively, hold society accountable for it's actions. We're not always right, society is not always wrong. There are laws and rules that govern society, not all of them stated, and they can take a lifetime to learn. Way I see it, Luckey just got a lesson in the rules. You probably shouldn't worry - he's a billionaire. That's more than most people have when they get a sudden, harsh schooling.
    - mzw_mzw 10y ago
      >Way I see it, Luckey just got a lesson in the rules. Same for those actors who were fired during the Hollywood blacklist era. No problem with that, right? They just got a lesson in the rules.
fdsaaf 10y ago
And this effect is why Trump will do far better than polls suggest. Lots of people will vote for him, but are afraid of saying so for fear of losing their jobs

drivingmenuts 10y ago

> Note that I'm not endorsing any side or candidate in my argument here (I take issue with both of them.) What I don't understand is how people can contribute to this situation and still think we live in a free country We're free to speak as we choose, however, the flip side is that we must also accept that there are sometimes consequences for doing so. Being a racist or a misogynist is a thing we are. A job is just a thing we do. Finding a new job is far, far easier than changing the fundamental building blocks of our selves. If Luckey loses his job, it will be because society has said "we don't like what you said and here's the consequence of that." If not, well, lucky him.

maxharris 10y ago
If Luckey loses his job, it will be because society has said "we don't like what you said and here's the consequence of that." "Society" can do that? Who holds "society" accountable for right and wrong? (I need not remind you of how some societies have done vicious things in the past.)
- drivingmenuts 10y ago
  Yep, society can do that. German society once said "kill all the Jews" and the rest of society said "No." We, collectively, hold society accountable for it's actions. We're not always right, society is not always wrong. There are laws and rules that govern society, not all of them stated, and they can take a lifetime to learn. Way I see it, Luckey just got a lesson in the rules. You probably shouldn't worry - he's a billionaire. That's more than most people have when they get a sudden, harsh schooling.
  - mzw_mzw 10y ago
    >Way I see it, Luckey just got a lesson in the rules. Same for those actors who were fired during the Hollywood blacklist era. No problem with that, right? They just got a lesson in the rules.

fdsaaf 10y ago

And this effect is why Trump will do far better than polls suggest. Lots of people will vote for him, but are afraid of saying so for fear of losing their jobs