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I agree with most everything you've said, the one point that I would contest is: > Yes, many jobs will be lost. But the prices of many goods will decrease. If

I agree with most everything you've said, the one point that I would contest is: > Yes, many jobs will be lost. But the prices of many goods will decrease. If you're talking about what I first thought of, which is things like groceries, housewares, the "every day things" that we all buy and consume without really thinking, I'm not sure that A: The prices on these items could go much lower than they already are and remain profitable, or B: That the producers of said goods (majority MASSIVE corporations with impressive names and product rosters, and the most likely early adopters of this technology) would reduce the prices in accordance with the reduction in cost. The trend now among these companies seems to be to squeeze every last cent out of every last consumer, and if you're proposing to your given board of directors to buy all these new trucks (or change contracts to a company that has) why would you then cut the prices? I would hope there would be market pressure to do so from at least one good actor, but I don't know how certain that is at all.

criley2 10y ago
>"If you're talking about what I first thought of, which is things like groceries, housewares, the "every day things" that we all buy and consume without really thinking, I'm not sure that A: The prices on these items could go much lower than they already are and remain profitable" This is the wrong analysis. Price of goods is say, (Supplier Cost)+(Transit to Store)+(Profit Margin)=MSRP You're saying that MSRP can't go down without hurting Profit Margin. He's saying, Transit to Store will decrease, allowing MSRP to decrease without affecting Supplier Cost or Profit Margin. (Or Profit Margin can increase while MSRP remains the same)
- sverige 10y ago
  But there's no guarantee that MSRP will go down. More likely that PM will increase.
  - seunosewa 10y ago
    Competition all but guarantees it, if there's competition.
    - FussyZeus 10y ago
      That's what I'm getting at. How many people price shop for household items and food? The majority I know have a brand that they buy all the time because of any number of reasons, and if the price doesn't go up but just stays where it is, how likely are they to change?
      - stale2002 10y ago
        They why wouldn't companies just do that right now? If companies can make more money, they would already be doing that by raising prices!
        FussyZeus 10y ago
        If the cost of manufacture and shipping goes down, and the price stays the same, the company makes more money and it isn't immediately obvious to the consumer that anything changed.
        harryh 10y ago
        Historically prices of goods to consumers have dropped dramatically as automation and globalization have reduced the costs of production. Your hypothesis that most of the gains would be captured by producers in the form of increased profits is wrong for almost all consumer goods.
        fjjrxcbdhx 10y ago
        Citation needed. Over the last couple decades processed foodstuffs have been constant in price, but the portions have decreased to cut costs. You can play Russian dolls with old cereal boxes, fitting the newer ones inside the old ones.
        harryh 10y ago
        All you have to do is look around and see how much stuff people have. People have enormous amounts of stuff compared to even 20 or 30 years ago. Bigger houses. More cars. TVs. Computers. Smart Phones. And it's all, relatively speaking, dirt cheap. It's so cheap that storage units are a booming business because people don't have room to store all their stuff in their homes. It's so cheap that burglaries aren't even a thing anymore really because stuff is so cheap it isn't even worth stealing. It's so cheap that Marie Kondo has a best selling book about the challenges of getting rid of your stuff because you simply have too much of it. Healthcare is expensive. Education is expensive. Land (in some places) is expensive. But man stuff. Stuff is cheap.
  - Ressuder 10y ago
    It seems wildly unlikely that no one would try to undercut their competitors, since it's obviously a viable business at current profit margins.

criley2 10y ago

>"If you're talking about what I first thought of, which is things like groceries, housewares, the "every day things" that we all buy and consume without really thinking, I'm not sure that A: The prices on these items could go much lower than they already are and remain profitable" This is the wrong analysis. Price of goods is say, (Supplier Cost)+(Transit to Store)+(Profit Margin)=MSRP You're saying that MSRP can't go down without hurting Profit Margin. He's saying, Transit to Store will decrease, allowing MSRP to decrease without affecting Supplier Cost or Profit Margin. (Or Profit Margin can increase while MSRP remains the same)

sverige 10y ago
But there's no guarantee that MSRP will go down. More likely that PM will increase.
- seunosewa 10y ago
  Competition all but guarantees it, if there's competition.
  - FussyZeus 10y ago
    That's what I'm getting at. How many people price shop for household items and food? The majority I know have a brand that they buy all the time because of any number of reasons, and if the price doesn't go up but just stays where it is, how likely are they to change?
    - stale2002 10y ago
      They why wouldn't companies just do that right now? If companies can make more money, they would already be doing that by raising prices!
      - FussyZeus 10y ago
        If the cost of manufacture and shipping goes down, and the price stays the same, the company makes more money and it isn't immediately obvious to the consumer that anything changed.
        harryh 10y ago
        Historically prices of goods to consumers have dropped dramatically as automation and globalization have reduced the costs of production. Your hypothesis that most of the gains would be captured by producers in the form of increased profits is wrong for almost all consumer goods.
        fjjrxcbdhx 10y ago
        Citation needed. Over the last couple decades processed foodstuffs have been constant in price, but the portions have decreased to cut costs. You can play Russian dolls with old cereal boxes, fitting the newer ones inside the old ones.
        harryh 10y ago
        All you have to do is look around and see how much stuff people have. People have enormous amounts of stuff compared to even 20 or 30 years ago. Bigger houses. More cars. TVs. Computers. Smart Phones. And it's all, relatively speaking, dirt cheap. It's so cheap that storage units are a booming business because people don't have room to store all their stuff in their homes. It's so cheap that burglaries aren't even a thing anymore really because stuff is so cheap it isn't even worth stealing. It's so cheap that Marie Kondo has a best selling book about the challenges of getting rid of your stuff because you simply have too much of it. Healthcare is expensive. Education is expensive. Land (in some places) is expensive. But man stuff. Stuff is cheap.
- Ressuder 10y ago
  It seems wildly unlikely that no one would try to undercut their competitors, since it's obviously a viable business at current profit margins.