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I've been using C++ for a long time (10+ years). At one point (around C++11), I decided to really embrace the advanced features (template metaprogramming mostly

I've been using C++ for a long time (10+ years). At one point (around C++11), I decided to really embrace the advanced features (template metaprogramming mostly) and stop trying to make the language something it wasn't. It can be complicated, for sure. But there is a certain plesantness that comes with letting the compiler do a lot of work for you. It can almost be like the switch to python - just let the compiler figure stuff out. This results in a lot less duplicate code, etc. The cost is some pretty bad syntax and compile time, though. Try to keep an open mind

gravypod 10y ago
I mean I've been programming for some time and I come from a strong Java background. I get the basis of what C++ is trying to do with their new features but I think it's horribly executed when looked at in comparison to other modern languages like Java and Rust. Speaking from a very strong Java background after Jigsaw I think Java will outdo the generics capabilities present in C++ in every way. Java 9 is bringing some crazy features to the mix. From what I understand they are getting rid of the boxing to object from generics to keep types static through lists and other generic elements. That's amazing and something C++ still does as templates are basically massively duplicated code in your binary while the JVM will get this for free at runtime. Rust is also just out of left field as they are doing amazing things with their "cost-free abstraction"