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I am confused about why you guys haven't already hired Peter Cawley, Vyacheslav Egorov, and/or Thomas Fransham.

by lukego 10y ago

corsix 10y ago
They've explored that route - and at least in my case, I so almost very nearly accepted their offer.
- lukego 10y ago
  This comment does not clear up my confusion at all... :-)
  - ajdlinux 10y ago
    corsix == Peter Cawley (https://github.com/corsix https://github.com/corsix)
    - lukego 10y ago
      Here is what I mean: From the outside the message I am receiving is "hurry up and wait for a new maintainer to emerge from closed-door discussions between Mike, CloudFlare, and unspecified other parties." However, this has been the situation for over a year now, and presumably there have already been fruitless discussions with all of the obvious candidates. (Reading between the lines I suspect that the job description was "Mike Pall 2.0" and the qualified candidates were simply too expensive, but that is speculation.) So what next for LuaJIT users? Keep waiting? Create a fork? Whine on Hacker News? Personally I don't think we need a "Mike Pall 2.0." What we need is mere-mortal active maintainers who can review, merge, and maintain extensions developed by the community. This work could conceivably be spread between many hands -- if some of those hands would have a commit bit. I think it unfortunate that excellent work like Thomas Fransham's intrinsics implementation are stuck in limbo because there is nobody available to review and commit them. End rant. I say this as a lover of LuaJIT and somebody who is using it for the long haul and thus very interested in its ongoing development.
chrisseaton 10y ago
I believe Vyacheslav Egorov already works at Google on LuaJIT.
- lukego 10y ago
  No. He works at Google, and during 2015 he temporarily provided support to internal LuaJIT users there and made many contributions in the process, but working on LuaJIT is not his job. (The world world be a better place if it were!) Source: https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/issues/45#issuecomment-234073487 https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/issues/45#issuecomment-2340...
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  - x0x0 10y ago
    And for companies not named FaceBook, you probably have about 0 chance of hiring him away from Google where engineers who are really good at building jits are prized ($$$). I am an acquaintance of a very senior, very very good jvm engineer who was offered a ludicrous salary by G.
    - walterbell 10y ago
      Is Mike Pall independent? I assume many companies have tried to hire him.
      - x0x0 10y ago
        I was discussing Vyacheslav. I assume Mike Pall can work for msft/goog/fb if he wishes to.
- tomatsu 10y ago
  He primarily works on V8 and the Dart VM, as far as I can tell.

I am confused about why you guys haven't already hired Peter Cawley, Vyacheslav Egorov, and/or Thomas Fransham.

by lukego 10y ago

I am confused about why you guys haven't already hired Peter Cawley, Vyacheslav Egorov, and/or Thomas Fransham.

corsix 10y ago

They've explored that route - and at least in my case, I so almost very nearly accepted their offer.

lukego 10y ago
This comment does not clear up my confusion at all... :-)
- ajdlinux 10y ago
  corsix == Peter Cawley (https://github.com/corsix https://github.com/corsix)
  - lukego 10y ago
    Here is what I mean: From the outside the message I am receiving is "hurry up and wait for a new maintainer to emerge from closed-door discussions between Mike, CloudFlare, and unspecified other parties." However, this has been the situation for over a year now, and presumably there have already been fruitless discussions with all of the obvious candidates. (Reading between the lines I suspect that the job description was "Mike Pall 2.0" and the qualified candidates were simply too expensive, but that is speculation.) So what next for LuaJIT users? Keep waiting? Create a fork? Whine on Hacker News? Personally I don't think we need a "Mike Pall 2.0." What we need is mere-mortal active maintainers who can review, merge, and maintain extensions developed by the community. This work could conceivably be spread between many hands -- if some of those hands would have a commit bit. I think it unfortunate that excellent work like Thomas Fransham's intrinsics implementation are stuck in limbo because there is nobody available to review and commit them. End rant. I say this as a lover of LuaJIT and somebody who is using it for the long haul and thus very interested in its ongoing development.

chrisseaton 10y ago

I believe Vyacheslav Egorov already works at Google on LuaJIT.

lukego 10y ago
No. He works at Google, and during 2015 he temporarily provided support to internal LuaJIT users there and made many contributions in the process, but working on LuaJIT is not his job. (The world world be a better place if it were!) Source: https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/issues/45#issuecomment-234073487 https://github.com/LuaJIT/LuaJIT/issues/45#issuecomment-2340...
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- x0x0 10y ago
  And for companies not named FaceBook, you probably have about 0 chance of hiring him away from Google where engineers who are really good at building jits are prized ($$$). I am an acquaintance of a very senior, very very good jvm engineer who was offered a ludicrous salary by G.
  - walterbell 10y ago
    Is Mike Pall independent? I assume many companies have tried to hire him.
    - x0x0 10y ago
      I was discussing Vyacheslav. I assume Mike Pall can work for msft/goog/fb if he wishes to.
tomatsu 10y ago
He primarily works on V8 and the Dart VM, as far as I can tell.