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> Detroit doesn’t place burdensome regulations on automobile manufacturers I think that San Francisco is trying to avert the Detroit outcome. Instead of being

by kartan 10y ago

> Detroit doesn’t place burdensome regulations on automobile manufacturers I think that San Francisco is trying to avert the Detroit outcome. Instead of being completely dependent on a single industry they are trying to regulate the growth and allow non-techies to live there. And instead of just forbidding things or over-regulate they are using taxes and other incentives to bring balance to the city. The article just cites some regulations as evil-doers without explaining why that's the case, or what is the relationship between the selected regulations. I really hope that San Francisco is able to keep its roots and what make it a great city to innovate and live. > Eric Mar, a member of the city’s Board of Supervisors, even went so far as to say that the tax would serve as indemnification for the “downside of the technology boom,” according to The New York Times. And as clarification, according to The New York Times Eric said that the tax would serve as indemnification for the “downside of the technology boom”. The "even went so far" is just part of Techcruch opinion.

jimmywanger 10y ago
> I really hope that San Francisco is able to keep its roots and what make it a great city to innovate and live. What roots are these? The Irish used to run the avenues, and now the Sunset is predominantly Chinese. Like I mentioned before, the Mission used to be german-irish, then it turned latino, and now there are a lot of techies there. Portola used to have mostly white and black residents, now there are a lot of Chinese people there. Change happens. You have to constantly re-invent yourself.
- idlewords 10y ago
  Techies are not an ethnic group. No one goes to SOMA to try the delicious techie food. The issue is an economically diverse city becoming polarized into a theme park and bedroom community for high earners, and a bunch of poor enclaves, with a service sector that has to commute in from outside the city.
  - jimmywanger 10y ago
    > Techies are not an ethnic group. No one goes to SOMA to try the delicious techie food. They sure as heck try to go to SOMA to recruit technical people and try to get technical advice. How is that any less of a tribe than a specific ethnicity. One tribe has spaghetti, one has dim sum, and the other has layers upon layers of technical expertise. > The issue is an economically diverse city becoming polarized into a theme park and bedroom community for high earners, and a bunch of poor enclaves, with a service sector that has to commute in from outside the city. Define economically diverse. The only reason less affluent people can't live in the city is because of the NIMBYism of SF residents, and the fact that they believe real estate should be a good financial investment. A few decades of compound interest later, you get to where we're at, where either you have to be incredibly wealthy or lived here for a long time to afford anything.
JBlue42 10y ago
Question regarding "averting a Detroit outcome": What was SF (and SV) like after the Dotcom crash? I was in high school at the time on the East Coast and haven't really heard any first-hand accounts of what the cityscape was like after. Did rents / housing become cheaper? Was there mass out-migration? Etc.

by kartan 10y ago

jimmywanger 10y ago

> I really hope that San Francisco is able to keep its roots and what make it a great city to innovate and live. What roots are these? The Irish used to run the avenues, and now the Sunset is predominantly Chinese. Like I mentioned before, the Mission used to be german-irish, then it turned latino, and now there are a lot of techies there. Portola used to have mostly white and black residents, now there are a lot of Chinese people there. Change happens. You have to constantly re-invent yourself.

idlewords 10y ago
Techies are not an ethnic group. No one goes to SOMA to try the delicious techie food. The issue is an economically diverse city becoming polarized into a theme park and bedroom community for high earners, and a bunch of poor enclaves, with a service sector that has to commute in from outside the city.
- jimmywanger 10y ago
  > Techies are not an ethnic group. No one goes to SOMA to try the delicious techie food. They sure as heck try to go to SOMA to recruit technical people and try to get technical advice. How is that any less of a tribe than a specific ethnicity. One tribe has spaghetti, one has dim sum, and the other has layers upon layers of technical expertise. > The issue is an economically diverse city becoming polarized into a theme park and bedroom community for high earners, and a bunch of poor enclaves, with a service sector that has to commute in from outside the city. Define economically diverse. The only reason less affluent people can't live in the city is because of the NIMBYism of SF residents, and the fact that they believe real estate should be a good financial investment. A few decades of compound interest later, you get to where we're at, where either you have to be incredibly wealthy or lived here for a long time to afford anything.

JBlue42 10y ago

Question regarding "averting a Detroit outcome": What was SF (and SV) like after the Dotcom crash? I was in high school at the time on the East Coast and haven't really heard any first-hand accounts of what the cityscape was like after. Did rents / housing become cheaper? Was there mass out-migration? Etc.