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I've wondered about this from other job postings I've read: Does "Really smart engineer" mean someone, specifically, with an "engineering" degree?

by j053003 16y ago

j_baker 16y ago
Degree != smart That said, it is a heuristic for determining who's smart. You just have to realize that it's a very imperfect tool.
- scott_s 16y ago
  I don't think he was asking about the smart part, but the engineer part.
  - smokinn 16y ago
    Canada makes that easy. Here you can only call yourself an engineer if you're actually an engineer because it's a protected term. (Like doctor.) We don't have the ridiculousness of sanitation engineer and the like so if the job posting includes engineer in the title you can easily assume they expect a degree and a licence with a proper Canadian accreditation board. And in case you were wondering, software engineering is only slightly different in that the majority of software engineers don't keep up their accreditation licence so usually when you see a Canadian software engineering posting they're looking for the degree but not necessarily the licence and will often accept non-engineers with a comp sci degree. It's rare that if the posting asks for software engineer that they'll accept someone without a degree. (Those positions are usually titled programmer, developer or programmer/analyst (which is the title you typically get from a CEGEP (kind of like community college in the US) degree.))
    - j_baker 16y ago
      That might be the case in the US as well (but it may not be enforced). For instance, the term "software architect" is technically illegal, but nobody actually enforces it if it's in the context of software.
    - mgrouchy 16y ago
      I'm Canadian and I don't know if this is entirely correct. Afaik you can only get acredited as a software engineer in a couple of provinces(Ontario,Quebec and Alberta I believe). Many universities have software engineering as sub programs or honors programs in the cs and engineering depts. As for job titles, I don't know if that's entirely correct either. I've seen jobs that are programmer, developer, software developer, programmer/analyst etc. Require a degree so I don't know if you can really generalize there.
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I've wondered about this from other job postings I've read: Does "Really smart engineer" mean someone, specifically, with an "engineering" degree?

by j053003 16y ago

I've wondered about this from other job postings I've read: Does "Really smart engineer" mean someone, specifically, with an "engineering" degree?

j_baker 16y ago

Degree != smart That said, it is a heuristic for determining who's smart. You just have to realize that it's a very imperfect tool.

scott_s 16y ago
I don't think he was asking about the smart part, but the engineer part.
- smokinn 16y ago
  Canada makes that easy. Here you can only call yourself an engineer if you're actually an engineer because it's a protected term. (Like doctor.) We don't have the ridiculousness of sanitation engineer and the like so if the job posting includes engineer in the title you can easily assume they expect a degree and a licence with a proper Canadian accreditation board. And in case you were wondering, software engineering is only slightly different in that the majority of software engineers don't keep up their accreditation licence so usually when you see a Canadian software engineering posting they're looking for the degree but not necessarily the licence and will often accept non-engineers with a comp sci degree. It's rare that if the posting asks for software engineer that they'll accept someone without a degree. (Those positions are usually titled programmer, developer or programmer/analyst (which is the title you typically get from a CEGEP (kind of like community college in the US) degree.))
  - j_baker 16y ago
    That might be the case in the US as well (but it may not be enforced). For instance, the term "software architect" is technically illegal, but nobody actually enforces it if it's in the context of software.
  - mgrouchy 16y ago
    I'm Canadian and I don't know if this is entirely correct. Afaik you can only get acredited as a software engineer in a couple of provinces(Ontario,Quebec and Alberta I believe). Many universities have software engineering as sub programs or honors programs in the cs and engineering depts. As for job titles, I don't know if that's entirely correct either. I've seen jobs that are programmer, developer, software developer, programmer/analyst etc. Require a degree so I don't know if you can really generalize there.

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