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People walk around with their cellphones out, and you aren't complaining. Any of them could be filming you. Nor are you punching CCTV camera operators (I hope).

People walk around with their cellphones out, and you aren't complaining. Any of them could be filming you. Nor are you punching CCTV camera operators (I hope). I always considered Google Glass could've been a success, if they'd only left the camera out. You could still do a lot with a head-up display that doesn't require video input. Google was socially clueless, tried to do too much too fast and aroused public hostility. It could've been different. Wait till a wearable heads-up display is more accepted, then consider adding a camera.

joering2 10y ago
> The thing is, people walk around with their cellphones out, and you aren't complaining about that. That's exactly the "thing". Once some "meme" like this settles in, its super hard to change people's perception. Heck, I have very well educated friend who is super tech-savvy and he truly believes people wearing Google glass are most likely some psychos, who just wait for an opportunity to record others in public. Perception like this is hard to change; that's why I don't believe Google will make Glass-like device popular/successful if they are going to brand it under "Google" flag. To anyone working on similar device: purposely put low-density contrast/black-white camera (or some sort of sonar/radar -- you don't really need high quality picture in your Glasses to have some cool use for them) in your device and advertise it this way from day one, so that hopefully people will get used to it knowing there is no hardware to record them in 1080p.
- sevenless 10y ago
  Sonar or lidar is a great idea if it can be made really small and not use much power. Simply, don't include a camera, and make it obvious there's no camera - make the conspicuous bit transparent. You don't need a camera for many applications, like a GPS based heads up map display.
  - witty_username 10y ago
    Maybe make the camera physically detachable? And some easy indicator to show whether the camera is plugged in or not?
JohnTHaller 10y ago
How do you feel when a stranger in public know is holding their phone as if they are filming and pointing the camera right at your face? Now transpose that feeling onto someone wearing these glasses simply looking at you. Because you won't know if they are filming or not. It's not similar to someone just having their phone out in their hands looking down at their screen. It's similar to someone with their phone camera pointed at you.
- sevenless 10y ago
  I think you're saying the problem is that the camera is pointed straight at you, and you're taking this as having the intention to film you. But phone cameras can have a wide angle. You can film people without pointing the phone straight at them. Someone walking around with a phone simply pointed vaguely in your direction could very well be filming you, and you won't know. Plus, CCTVs certainly are filming you, and like I said, I don't see the parent poster complaining about that. With Glass I feel it's a matter of interpreting their intention. Someone with a camera strapped to their head will naturally be pointing it straight at you if they talk to you, but this isn't necessarily the same as them having the intention to film you. Plus, you know, there's no law against filming in public. Maybe that's just the goldfish bowl we're all living in now. Maybe Zuckerberg was right and privacy is dead, or at least a luxury most of us can't afford.
- home_boi 10y ago
  This will take "it's just a prank bro" to a new level.
- khedoros 10y ago
  About how I feel whenever someone's holding up an actual camera, filming. It's obnoxious, but it's not the end of the world, and it's not going to make me want to punch someone. It's kind of funny to listen to people get over-dramatic about this stuff. It'll be really funny to watch them get arrested for assault if they do actually get themselves worked up enough to punch someone. The impression that I get from comments like yours is that you're almost picturing someone following you to film you, or getting in your face, or something. That would piss me off. But seriously, someone hanging out with friends and posting pictures online where I happen to be in the background? That already happens almost daily. I don't think it's worth getting worked up about.

joering2 10y ago

> The thing is, people walk around with their cellphones out, and you aren't complaining about that. That's exactly the "thing". Once some "meme" like this settles in, its super hard to change people's perception. Heck, I have very well educated friend who is super tech-savvy and he truly believes people wearing Google glass are most likely some psychos, who just wait for an opportunity to record others in public. Perception like this is hard to change; that's why I don't believe Google will make Glass-like device popular/successful if they are going to brand it under "Google" flag. To anyone working on similar device: purposely put low-density contrast/black-white camera (or some sort of sonar/radar -- you don't really need high quality picture in your Glasses to have some cool use for them) in your device and advertise it this way from day one, so that hopefully people will get used to it knowing there is no hardware to record them in 1080p.

sevenless 10y ago
Sonar or lidar is a great idea if it can be made really small and not use much power. Simply, don't include a camera, and make it obvious there's no camera - make the conspicuous bit transparent. You don't need a camera for many applications, like a GPS based heads up map display.
- witty_username 10y ago
  Maybe make the camera physically detachable? And some easy indicator to show whether the camera is plugged in or not?

JohnTHaller 10y ago

How do you feel when a stranger in public know is holding their phone as if they are filming and pointing the camera right at your face? Now transpose that feeling onto someone wearing these glasses simply looking at you. Because you won't know if they are filming or not. It's not similar to someone just having their phone out in their hands looking down at their screen. It's similar to someone with their phone camera pointed at you.

sevenless 10y ago
I think you're saying the problem is that the camera is pointed straight at you, and you're taking this as having the intention to film you. But phone cameras can have a wide angle. You can film people without pointing the phone straight at them. Someone walking around with a phone simply pointed vaguely in your direction could very well be filming you, and you won't know. Plus, CCTVs certainly are filming you, and like I said, I don't see the parent poster complaining about that. With Glass I feel it's a matter of interpreting their intention. Someone with a camera strapped to their head will naturally be pointing it straight at you if they talk to you, but this isn't necessarily the same as them having the intention to film you. Plus, you know, there's no law against filming in public. Maybe that's just the goldfish bowl we're all living in now. Maybe Zuckerberg was right and privacy is dead, or at least a luxury most of us can't afford.
home_boi 10y ago
This will take "it's just a prank bro" to a new level.
khedoros 10y ago
About how I feel whenever someone's holding up an actual camera, filming. It's obnoxious, but it's not the end of the world, and it's not going to make me want to punch someone. It's kind of funny to listen to people get over-dramatic about this stuff. It'll be really funny to watch them get arrested for assault if they do actually get themselves worked up enough to punch someone. The impression that I get from comments like yours is that you're almost picturing someone following you to film you, or getting in your face, or something. That would piss me off. But seriously, someone hanging out with friends and posting pictures online where I happen to be in the background? That already happens almost daily. I don't think it's worth getting worked up about.