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Uhh, yeah, I never said it was easy or simple. It's gonna take a lot of hard work to get people adjusted, and I don't believe we even can adjust everyone. But t

Uhh, yeah, I never said it was easy or simple. It's gonna take a lot of hard work to get people adjusted, and I don't believe we even can adjust everyone. But that approach is more realistic and successful than "don't commit crimes" > Your otherwise cool idea has no real implementations (communism doesn't count). Other than the fact that it has completely real and provable implementations: http://www.alltreatment.com/drug-rehab-infographic http://www.alltreatment.com/drug-rehab-infographic http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/18/prison-could-be-productive/punishment-fails-rehabilitation-works http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2012/12/18/prison-could...

wruza 10y ago
First link seems to be irrelevant since it only covers drug addiction that can be treated as mental disease, but other potential crimes can not. Second article shows reduction of violence in or after the jail, not reduction of violence per se. You cannot forcibly cure not-yet-guilty with that, and they aren't guilty until commit a crime. But it is great method on its own.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  Those are just the first two links I found after 5 seconds of searching though. My points have been proven over and over and over by other studies.
  - wruza 10y ago
    No amount of studies can change the following: we still can't force non-guilty guys to psychiatrist (because they are free to just not go there), and guilty guys already are in jail. Where do you think this logic should be broken? To not send them there and to cure instead? Organized crimes will grow on this scheme like mushrooms after rain. To test and monitor everyone before they do something? That's what everyone is fighting with (Snowden et al). Again, their idea is great, but it will never be elected in social context.
    - CaptSpify 10y ago
      Oh yeah, totally. Using known proven methods for reducing crime is going to be a total waste of everyone's time. We should totally just put them in a box instead and not try to fix the root of the problem. Lets keep using the same methods that have been proven not to work because some people might be able to abuse another process. /sarcasm
      - wruza 10y ago
        Okay, how would you implement that, exactly?
        CaptSpify 10y ago
        To be honest, I'm not sure. I'm not an expert in crime, prison, or socially integrating people back into society. I would start with listening to experts who have methods with reproducible results, however, which is something the US typically doesn't do when it comes to these issues.

wruza 10y ago

First link seems to be irrelevant since it only covers drug addiction that can be treated as mental disease, but other potential crimes can not. Second article shows reduction of violence in or after the jail, not reduction of violence per se. You cannot forcibly cure not-yet-guilty with that, and they aren't guilty until commit a crime. But it is great method on its own.

CaptSpify 10y ago
Those are just the first two links I found after 5 seconds of searching though. My points have been proven over and over and over by other studies.
- wruza 10y ago
  No amount of studies can change the following: we still can't force non-guilty guys to psychiatrist (because they are free to just not go there), and guilty guys already are in jail. Where do you think this logic should be broken? To not send them there and to cure instead? Organized crimes will grow on this scheme like mushrooms after rain. To test and monitor everyone before they do something? That's what everyone is fighting with (Snowden et al). Again, their idea is great, but it will never be elected in social context.
  - CaptSpify 10y ago
    Oh yeah, totally. Using known proven methods for reducing crime is going to be a total waste of everyone's time. We should totally just put them in a box instead and not try to fix the root of the problem. Lets keep using the same methods that have been proven not to work because some people might be able to abuse another process. /sarcasm
    - wruza 10y ago
      Okay, how would you implement that, exactly?
      - CaptSpify 10y ago
        To be honest, I'm not sure. I'm not an expert in crime, prison, or socially integrating people back into society. I would start with listening to experts who have methods with reproducible results, however, which is something the US typically doesn't do when it comes to these issues.