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China is just as averse as any other country to secession, it only seems more oppressive about it because more people have tried to secede from it in the last d

China is just as averse as any other country to secession, it only seems more oppressive about it because more people have tried to secede from it in the last decades. Brazil for instance has a history of revolts for secession, but after ten or twenty bloodbaths the people quieted down, and now only a handful timidly call for it. I'm sure other countries have a similar history, and I hope that nowadays they would have a more understanding attitude towards it. For instance, Catalonia seems to be closer than ever from seceding from Spain, and I hope they can do it without conflict. I wonder though what would happen if one day there are enough Texans to vote for a secession and enough reason to press for it if it's not legally accepted... I imagine Uncle Sam would not be very happy about it.

FabHK 10y ago
Disagree. Of course, secession is not an everyday occurrence. But Scotland had a referendum 2014 about leaving the UK, and Scottish independence can be openly discussed. Some autonomous regions of Spain enjoy big degrees of autonomy, and might get more. China is very protective of its integrity, and I'd say even more so than many, if not most countries. (I wonder, incidentally, how constitutions deal with it.)
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- jdietrich 10y ago
  >Some autonomous regions of Spain enjoy big degrees of autonomy, and might get more. The Basque separatist movement hasn't been entirely peaceful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_(separatist_group) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_(separatist_group)
  - Steko 10y ago
    The UK wasn't the greatest example either given the not so distant history of Northern Ireland.
    - sbmassey 10y ago
      Northern Ireland was a more complex situation than being just a province where most want to secede
- meira 10y ago
  You should compare China with US, not UK. Alaska is not trying to get off of the United States, but it would make more sense than HK leaving China. Why HK should be independent? Just because some young people living there want it?
- FabHK 10y ago
  Just some evidence, for example: German constitution, article 1, paragraph 1: "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." HK basic law, article 1: "The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is an inalienable part of the People's Republic of China."

FabHK 10y ago

Disagree. Of course, secession is not an everyday occurrence. But Scotland had a referendum 2014 about leaving the UK, and Scottish independence can be openly discussed. Some autonomous regions of Spain enjoy big degrees of autonomy, and might get more. China is very protective of its integrity, and I'd say even more so than many, if not most countries. (I wonder, incidentally, how constitutions deal with it.)

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jdietrich 10y ago
>Some autonomous regions of Spain enjoy big degrees of autonomy, and might get more. The Basque separatist movement hasn't been entirely peaceful: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_(separatist_group) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETA_(separatist_group)
- Steko 10y ago
  The UK wasn't the greatest example either given the not so distant history of Northern Ireland.
  - sbmassey 10y ago
    Northern Ireland was a more complex situation than being just a province where most want to secede
meira 10y ago
You should compare China with US, not UK. Alaska is not trying to get off of the United States, but it would make more sense than HK leaving China. Why HK should be independent? Just because some young people living there want it?
FabHK 10y ago
Just some evidence, for example: German constitution, article 1, paragraph 1: "Human dignity shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority." HK basic law, article 1: "The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region is an inalienable part of the People's Republic of China."