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I don't know anyone in tech who appreciates cigars. It doesn't go with things like rock climbing, kayaking, snowboarding, ultramarathoning, CrossFit, or redditi

by fatdog 10y ago

I don't know anyone in tech who appreciates cigars. It doesn't go with things like rock climbing, kayaking, snowboarding, ultramarathoning, CrossFit, or redditing that our fields are known for. I love them, but what's the HN connection?

sehr 10y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
solnyshok 10y ago
I enjoy reading hn smoking a cigar outdoors - at the park or rooftop bar
pc86 10y ago
I own a CrossFit box and have a cigar probably once every 6 weeks with our corporate attorney. There's zero noticeable effect on lung capacity of stamina, aside from the minor mouth/throat cancer risk I don't see any reason smoking an occasional cigar would be incompatible with health and fitness.
- ythl 10y ago
  > I don't see any reason smoking an occasional cigar would be incompatible with health and fitness. Sounds like rationalization: https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/tobacco/cigars-fact-sheet https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/t... TL;DR: - "Some premium cigars contain the tobacco equivalent of an entire pack of cigarettes." - "Cigar smoke is possibly more toxic than cigarette smoke" - "...the larger size of most cigars (more tobacco) and longer smoking time result in higher exposure to many toxic substances" - "There is no safe level of tobacco use."
  - pc86 10y ago
    There's a big difference between "rationalization" and accepting the risks. I never said there was a safe level of tobacco use, but there are many recreational activities that are much riskier than the occasional cigar.
NikolaeVarius 10y ago
Just because the people who do these things are the loudest doesn't mean that the HN crowd doesn't do other things.
ythl 10y ago
> I don't know anyone in tech who appreciates cigars That's because most people don't want cancer
buckbova 10y ago
> rock climbing, kayaking, snowboarding, ultramarathoning, CrossFit I feel like I missed something. When did it start that being in tech meant you are a snowboarding rock climbing cross fit stud(ette)? My typical week I'm on my ass in front of a flickering screen for 100 hours.
- xj9 10y ago
  A lot of the people I know in tech do these types of activities. Those who don't typically belong to an older crowd. Perhaps my cohort is bringing along a cultural change? I'm fairly new to the industry, so I might be talking out of my ass.
grkvlt 10y ago
> rock climbing, kayaking, snowboarding, ultramarathoning When did the IT or CS field become known for those pursuits? They seem more like a list of modern sports, that many in their twenties would enjoy. Perhaps you are associating with a particular age group subset, rather than the broader cross-section of the industry from 20-80+ which is a lot harder to pin down in terms of stereotypical hobbies. I found it quite amusing when ESR decided to rewrite the Jargon File to re-define martial arts as the 'true' hacker pastime [1] since that is what he seems to enjoy...? > [...] martial arts seems to have become firmly established as the hacker exercise form of choice [...] [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/physical.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/physical.html
- Jarwain 10y ago
  I'm not super familiar with the history on this, but the reasoning he gave seemed plausible. From the anectdote about a random group he joined consisting of a high percentage of martial artists, to the slang analogizing programming with martial arts. Sure he might be biased because he also does martial arts, but it is also plausible from the stance that he is unbiased.
  - gaius 10y ago
    Oh ESR is pretty notorious in these parts. Have you seen his sex tips page?
    - Jarwain 10y ago
      ... I have not. Could you link me?
- sotojuan 10y ago
  GP is assuming the tech industry is synonymous with the Twitter/HN/Reddit crowd.
mikestew 10y ago
I don't know anyone in tech who appreciates cigars. Well, you don't know me. A long and occasionally glorious career as a distance runner (including the new fashion: ultras), ex-high level bike racer, climber of volcanoes on occasion. I don't do "redditing" though; a man's got to have standards. And I enjoy the occasional cigar, with several humidors on my shelf. I mean, let's face facts, what little chance I had to go to the Olympics passed decades ago, and a cigar once a month probably adds tenths (tenths!) of a second to my 5K time. Cancer? I'll change my tune when that chest x-ray comes back positive, but I'll take my chances in exchange for a tasty stogey on occasion. EDIT: and come to think of it, plenty of people I know "in tech" are obese, guzzling multiples of sugar drinks and crap food all day. So I guess I was arguing with a stereotype that for the most part probably isn't even true.

by fatdog 10y ago

sehr 10y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

solnyshok 10y ago

I enjoy reading hn smoking a cigar outdoors - at the park or rooftop bar

pc86 10y ago

I own a CrossFit box and have a cigar probably once every 6 weeks with our corporate attorney. There's zero noticeable effect on lung capacity of stamina, aside from the minor mouth/throat cancer risk I don't see any reason smoking an occasional cigar would be incompatible with health and fitness.

ythl 10y ago
> I don't see any reason smoking an occasional cigar would be incompatible with health and fitness. Sounds like rationalization: https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/tobacco/cigars-fact-sheet https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/t... TL;DR: - "Some premium cigars contain the tobacco equivalent of an entire pack of cigarettes." - "Cigar smoke is possibly more toxic than cigarette smoke" - "...the larger size of most cigars (more tobacco) and longer smoking time result in higher exposure to many toxic substances" - "There is no safe level of tobacco use."
- pc86 10y ago
  There's a big difference between "rationalization" and accepting the risks. I never said there was a safe level of tobacco use, but there are many recreational activities that are much riskier than the occasional cigar.

NikolaeVarius 10y ago

Just because the people who do these things are the loudest doesn't mean that the HN crowd doesn't do other things.

ythl 10y ago

> I don't know anyone in tech who appreciates cigars That's because most people don't want cancer

buckbova 10y ago

> rock climbing, kayaking, snowboarding, ultramarathoning, CrossFit I feel like I missed something. When did it start that being in tech meant you are a snowboarding rock climbing cross fit stud(ette)? My typical week I'm on my ass in front of a flickering screen for 100 hours.

xj9 10y ago
A lot of the people I know in tech do these types of activities. Those who don't typically belong to an older crowd. Perhaps my cohort is bringing along a cultural change? I'm fairly new to the industry, so I might be talking out of my ass.

grkvlt 10y ago

> rock climbing, kayaking, snowboarding, ultramarathoning When did the IT or CS field become known for those pursuits? They seem more like a list of modern sports, that many in their twenties would enjoy. Perhaps you are associating with a particular age group subset, rather than the broader cross-section of the industry from 20-80+ which is a lot harder to pin down in terms of stereotypical hobbies. I found it quite amusing when ESR decided to rewrite the Jargon File to re-define martial arts as the 'true' hacker pastime [1] since that is what he seems to enjoy...? > [...] martial arts seems to have become firmly established as the hacker exercise form of choice [...] [1] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/physical.html http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/physical.html

Jarwain 10y ago
I'm not super familiar with the history on this, but the reasoning he gave seemed plausible. From the anectdote about a random group he joined consisting of a high percentage of martial artists, to the slang analogizing programming with martial arts. Sure he might be biased because he also does martial arts, but it is also plausible from the stance that he is unbiased.
- gaius 10y ago
  Oh ESR is pretty notorious in these parts. Have you seen his sex tips page?
  - Jarwain 10y ago
    ... I have not. Could you link me?
sotojuan 10y ago
GP is assuming the tech industry is synonymous with the Twitter/HN/Reddit crowd.

mikestew 10y ago

I don't know anyone in tech who appreciates cigars. Well, you don't know me. A long and occasionally glorious career as a distance runner (including the new fashion: ultras), ex-high level bike racer, climber of volcanoes on occasion. I don't do "redditing" though; a man's got to have standards. And I enjoy the occasional cigar, with several humidors on my shelf. I mean, let's face facts, what little chance I had to go to the Olympics passed decades ago, and a cigar once a month probably adds tenths (tenths!) of a second to my 5K time. Cancer? I'll change my tune when that chest x-ray comes back positive, but I'll take my chances in exchange for a tasty stogey on occasion. EDIT: and come to think of it, plenty of people I know "in tech" are obese, guzzling multiples of sugar drinks and crap food all day. So I guess I was arguing with a stereotype that for the most part probably isn't even true.