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Oracle should pay, they knew exactly what they were doing. If it was them, they would be suing too. Live by the sword die by the sword.

helthanatos 10y ago
Oracle would probably sue if Google said something about buying Sun... >“She just blurted out the two numbers that mattered. She just blurted it out,” said Judge Alsup. “If she had had the recipe for Coca-Cola she could have blurted it out in this court right now.” Knowing revenue isn't exactly the same as knowing a formula. It's odd that Google cares so much.
- sjellis 10y ago
  I don't think that they care about that so much as making the point that nobody else should think about copying Oracle's tactics. The attorneys for Oracle were remarkably unscrupulous in the way that they conducted their case, IMO, and this is part of the payback, from the judge as well as Google's lawyers.
- twblalock 10y ago
  Google cares because they didn't want the info made public. The judge cares, and everyone else should care, because revealing confidential information in court should never be tolerated, no matter how trivial that information might seem. If people get away with it, it undermines that principle and makes it more likely to happen in the future.
- helthanatos 10y ago
  Interesting. 5 downvotes and 2 comments... Why only 2 comments
sharemywin 10y ago
I don't think Oracle is required to pay it's their lawyers.
- paxcoder 10y ago
  Not sure, they did this on company time, and acting on their behalf.
  - hueving 10y ago
    Doesn't matter. It was the lawyers' mistake, not the companies. If I order a pizza and the delivery driver mows down a crowd of people with his car on the way to me, that's not my fault.
    - Alupis 10y ago
      This analogy isn't exactly fitting. The pizza delivery person isn't acting as your agent and representative. If you work for a company, and break something serious for a client - it's not you who gets sued, it's your company because you were acting on their behalf. These lawyers were hired by Oracle to conduct legal matters on Oracle's behalf - if they win the case, it's not the lawyers who take home the prize - it's Oracle. Conversely, if they lose, it's not the lawyers who pay the penalty - it's Oracle. So, it's not out of the real of possibility that Oracle will be fined or penalized in some way.
      - tamana 10y ago
        If I pay someone a million dollars to do work for me. And they cause half a million dollars in damages due to negligence, it's coming out of their pay.
        Alupis 10y ago
        That would, clearly, be between you and your agent. Meanwhile, you would be legally exposed to lawsuit to reclaim that half million dollars in damages.
      - hueving 10y ago
        The lawyers don't work for Oracle, they work for the law firm, so your analogy doesn't fit.

helthanatos 10y ago

Oracle would probably sue if Google said something about buying Sun... >“She just blurted out the two numbers that mattered. She just blurted it out,” said Judge Alsup. “If she had had the recipe for Coca-Cola she could have blurted it out in this court right now.” Knowing revenue isn't exactly the same as knowing a formula. It's odd that Google cares so much.

sjellis 10y ago
I don't think that they care about that so much as making the point that nobody else should think about copying Oracle's tactics. The attorneys for Oracle were remarkably unscrupulous in the way that they conducted their case, IMO, and this is part of the payback, from the judge as well as Google's lawyers.
twblalock 10y ago
Google cares because they didn't want the info made public. The judge cares, and everyone else should care, because revealing confidential information in court should never be tolerated, no matter how trivial that information might seem. If people get away with it, it undermines that principle and makes it more likely to happen in the future.
helthanatos 10y ago
Interesting. 5 downvotes and 2 comments... Why only 2 comments

sharemywin 10y ago

I don't think Oracle is required to pay it's their lawyers.

paxcoder 10y ago
Not sure, they did this on company time, and acting on their behalf.
- hueving 10y ago
  Doesn't matter. It was the lawyers' mistake, not the companies. If I order a pizza and the delivery driver mows down a crowd of people with his car on the way to me, that's not my fault.
  - Alupis 10y ago
    This analogy isn't exactly fitting. The pizza delivery person isn't acting as your agent and representative. If you work for a company, and break something serious for a client - it's not you who gets sued, it's your company because you were acting on their behalf. These lawyers were hired by Oracle to conduct legal matters on Oracle's behalf - if they win the case, it's not the lawyers who take home the prize - it's Oracle. Conversely, if they lose, it's not the lawyers who pay the penalty - it's Oracle. So, it's not out of the real of possibility that Oracle will be fined or penalized in some way.
    - tamana 10y ago
      If I pay someone a million dollars to do work for me. And they cause half a million dollars in damages due to negligence, it's coming out of their pay.
      - Alupis 10y ago
        That would, clearly, be between you and your agent. Meanwhile, you would be legally exposed to lawsuit to reclaim that half million dollars in damages.
    - hueving 10y ago
      The lawyers don't work for Oracle, they work for the law firm, so your analogy doesn't fit.