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No shit! They should charge companies and news agencies, and anyone representing companies per tweet(1k per tweet or similar). They provide a valuable service -

No shit! They should charge companies and news agencies, and anyone representing companies per tweet(1k per tweet or similar). They provide a valuable service - why should they give it to corporations for free?

mkagenius 10y ago
fb doesn't do that. Twitter can follow what fb does. Right now twitter is very light weight, un-cluttered. It can change UI/UX to advertise more. Of-course there has to be value for advertisers as well - which I think is there (350M users).
- abc_lisper 10y ago
  Yeah. Twitter is a broadcasting platform. It is different from FB. FB feed has your mom and their friends' posts. Twitter doesn't, unless you explicitly ask for it. Not everything should be about advertising. Twitter can stay as it has, and just charge people with money, money.
  - gaius 10y ago
    The feeds of both are whatever the algo thinks - which will be some compromise between what you want and what the owner of the algo wants.
    - tkxxx7 10y ago
      What is algorithm-driven in my twitter feed? The 'While you were away' stuff at the top? Other than that, as far as I know it's always been a chronological feed of whoever I want.
      - gaius 10y ago
        Are you sure? http://fortune.com/2016/03/20/twitter-algorithm-social-marketing/ http://fortune.com/2016/03/20/twitter-algorithm-social-marke... If you don't even notice it, the algo has got you...
        tkxxx7 10y ago
        Oh, wow. Does this effect third-party clients as well? I use Echofon almost exclusively.
        gaius 10y ago
        I can't imagine not - would Twitter give people an easy way to avoid sponsored content etc? That's one reason they cut off all the devs.
        msravi 10y ago
        Wow, didn't know that either. But I don't "follow" people. Rather, I simply add them to different lists (finance, news, science, tech, right, left, etc.) and use tweetdeck to follow the multiple lists. I wonder if they're also messing with the lists... In any case, as far as I can tell, I seem to be getting all the tweets of people in the list in chronological order.
        tkxxx7 10y ago
        that's a good point too, I have a couple lists I look at for close friends and such and only go onto the timeline every now and then
- Domenic_S 10y ago
  The tweet is the advertisement. Keep everything as it is today, but if you have 1mm+ reach per tweet, you pay $$$/tweet.
- digi_owl 10y ago
  Twitter's basic problem is that they opened up to third party clients back while they were still growing, and those third party clients quickly outpaced them in new usage features. Twitter has been trying to reign that in since (various things their official client can do is not accessible via the public APIs), but they can't just drop their third party support or they would see the usage rates dwindle in no time flat.

mkagenius 10y ago

fb doesn't do that. Twitter can follow what fb does. Right now twitter is very light weight, un-cluttered. It can change UI/UX to advertise more. Of-course there has to be value for advertisers as well - which I think is there (350M users).

abc_lisper 10y ago
Yeah. Twitter is a broadcasting platform. It is different from FB. FB feed has your mom and their friends' posts. Twitter doesn't, unless you explicitly ask for it. Not everything should be about advertising. Twitter can stay as it has, and just charge people with money, money.
- gaius 10y ago
  The feeds of both are whatever the algo thinks - which will be some compromise between what you want and what the owner of the algo wants.
  - tkxxx7 10y ago
    What is algorithm-driven in my twitter feed? The 'While you were away' stuff at the top? Other than that, as far as I know it's always been a chronological feed of whoever I want.
    - gaius 10y ago
      Are you sure? http://fortune.com/2016/03/20/twitter-algorithm-social-marketing/ http://fortune.com/2016/03/20/twitter-algorithm-social-marke... If you don't even notice it, the algo has got you...
      - tkxxx7 10y ago
        Oh, wow. Does this effect third-party clients as well? I use Echofon almost exclusively.
        gaius 10y ago
        I can't imagine not - would Twitter give people an easy way to avoid sponsored content etc? That's one reason they cut off all the devs.
      - msravi 10y ago
        Wow, didn't know that either. But I don't "follow" people. Rather, I simply add them to different lists (finance, news, science, tech, right, left, etc.) and use tweetdeck to follow the multiple lists. I wonder if they're also messing with the lists... In any case, as far as I can tell, I seem to be getting all the tweets of people in the list in chronological order.
        tkxxx7 10y ago
        that's a good point too, I have a couple lists I look at for close friends and such and only go onto the timeline every now and then
Domenic_S 10y ago
The tweet is the advertisement. Keep everything as it is today, but if you have 1mm+ reach per tweet, you pay $$$/tweet.
digi_owl 10y ago
Twitter's basic problem is that they opened up to third party clients back while they were still growing, and those third party clients quickly outpaced them in new usage features. Twitter has been trying to reign that in since (various things their official client can do is not accessible via the public APIs), but they can't just drop their third party support or they would see the usage rates dwindle in no time flat.