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Past the point where we thought that ideas should be or even can be segmented into those interesting to women vs those interesting to men, which is a rather sil

Past the point where we thought that ideas should be or even can be segmented into those interesting to women vs those interesting to men, which is a rather silly idea rooted in gender unfounded stereotypes and possibly a bit of sexism.

hueving 10y ago
We're not even close to past that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women%27s_magazines https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women%27s_magazines https://m.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes https://m.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes It's still acceptable to categorize clothing stores by sex as well.
- 3chelon 10y ago
  Tsssh. Toilets too. :-)
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  "The new fragrance, for her" "Manpurse" (as in, saying "purse" implies "woman") Razors for men and for women, exactly the same thing but one is pink, one is blue Bicycles for women with different frames (because they always wear skirts, y'know) Running shoes for women (pink) and men (blue) I could go on...
  - throwanem 10y ago
    > Bicycles for women with different frames This one in particular I never quite grasped. I mean, there've been a couple times, when I stopped short and came off the seat and pedals, that I really wished, in an extremely immediate and visceral fashion, that my bike's top tube wasn't quite where it was. On the other hand, I suppose the "women's bike" design probably lacks something in rigidity by comparison, so I suppose there's an argument either way.
    - jharger 10y ago
      So I had heard that women's bikes were designed that way to allow room for riding in a dress. Apparently people still do this: https://letsgorideabike.com/2012/06/04/how-to-bicycling-in-a-long-dress/ https://letsgorideabike.com/2012/06/04/how-to-bicycling-in-a...
      - soylentcola 10y ago
        That's exactly what I've always been told. If you're wearing a skirt/dress, the bar on a guy's bike will push your skirt up and create a scandal :O So "girls' bikes" have a dip in the bar so there's room for a skirt/dress. Still, I wonder if there's a reason they just didn't make all bikes like this to make it cheaper for the manufacturers. I'd imagine the straight bar could offer more rigidity or I guess maybe it costs slightly more to make the curved version with a longer bar and the process of making the curve. If that's the case, I guess margin-shaving bike manufacturers only made as many of the curved model cycles as they had to in order to address the demand from skirt/dress-wearing customers.
- mikeash 10y ago
  And toys. The local Target has "girls" and "boys" sections. I'm wondering what my daughter is going to say when she finally notices that half the stuff she likes is filed under "boys."
lifeformed 10y ago
But more specifically, that the default topic is those interesting to men, needing no special indicator.

hueving 10y ago

We're not even close to past that. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women%27s_magazines https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_women%27s_magazines https://m.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes https://m.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes It's still acceptable to categorize clothing stores by sex as well.

3chelon 10y ago
Tsssh. Toilets too. :-)
semi-extrinsic 10y ago
"The new fragrance, for her" "Manpurse" (as in, saying "purse" implies "woman") Razors for men and for women, exactly the same thing but one is pink, one is blue Bicycles for women with different frames (because they always wear skirts, y'know) Running shoes for women (pink) and men (blue) I could go on...
- throwanem 10y ago
  > Bicycles for women with different frames This one in particular I never quite grasped. I mean, there've been a couple times, when I stopped short and came off the seat and pedals, that I really wished, in an extremely immediate and visceral fashion, that my bike's top tube wasn't quite where it was. On the other hand, I suppose the "women's bike" design probably lacks something in rigidity by comparison, so I suppose there's an argument either way.
  - jharger 10y ago
    So I had heard that women's bikes were designed that way to allow room for riding in a dress. Apparently people still do this: https://letsgorideabike.com/2012/06/04/how-to-bicycling-in-a-long-dress/ https://letsgorideabike.com/2012/06/04/how-to-bicycling-in-a...
    - soylentcola 10y ago
      That's exactly what I've always been told. If you're wearing a skirt/dress, the bar on a guy's bike will push your skirt up and create a scandal :O So "girls' bikes" have a dip in the bar so there's room for a skirt/dress. Still, I wonder if there's a reason they just didn't make all bikes like this to make it cheaper for the manufacturers. I'd imagine the straight bar could offer more rigidity or I guess maybe it costs slightly more to make the curved version with a longer bar and the process of making the curve. If that's the case, I guess margin-shaving bike manufacturers only made as many of the curved model cycles as they had to in order to address the demand from skirt/dress-wearing customers.
mikeash 10y ago
And toys. The local Target has "girls" and "boys" sections. I'm wondering what my daughter is going to say when she finally notices that half the stuff she likes is filed under "boys."

lifeformed 10y ago

But more specifically, that the default topic is those interesting to men, needing no special indicator.