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The concern is that the police are considering peaceful activism as hostile intent, and escalating scrutiny accordingly. Furthermore, more monitoring of activi

The concern is that the police are considering peaceful activism as hostile intent, and escalating scrutiny accordingly. Furthermore, more monitoring of activists provides more chances for incitement/provocation by the police as needed.

thatcat 10y ago
>the police are considering peaceful activism as hostile Exactly. Police are willfully misinterpreting participation in a conversation intended to raise awareness about police misconduct in an attempt to intimidate activists into remaining silent. Using social media as a surveillance apparatus to manage their public image through intimidation is essentially cyber bullying.
- ch4s3 10y ago
  > manage their public image through intimidation is essentially cyber bullying When an actor representing the state does this, I think it is appropriate to call it oppression. Sure, it isn't the Stazi, interrogate you in a small room for days kind, but it isn't exactly friendly or well meaning either.
  - arca_vorago 10y ago
    Tell the people who have disappeared into police run black sites like the one we know about in Chicago that, and I bet they would disagree. Interrogation for days without a lawyer sound awfully close to Stasi-esque to me. As Thomas Drake says, the Stasi would have killed for the surveillance engine regular lea's have at their disposal today.
    - dragonwriter 10y ago
      > As Thomas Drake says, the Stasi would have killed for the surveillance engine regular lea's have at their disposal today. OTOH, "X would have killed for Y" doesn't say a lot about Y when X is not actually known to be even slightly reluctant when it comes to killing.
  - TunaRailgun 10y ago
    Oh, that's happened. Don't go forgetting about the Chicago black sites and a bunch of other illegal detainment facilities that have been used (g8/g20/OWS) OWS was the big one really. It saw law enforcement cooperation not just across NA, but globally, to put down the protests, to share tactics, and also to threaten the activist leaders at the time into hiding. Many had been branded by the electronic system and profiled.

thatcat 10y ago

>the police are considering peaceful activism as hostile Exactly. Police are willfully misinterpreting participation in a conversation intended to raise awareness about police misconduct in an attempt to intimidate activists into remaining silent. Using social media as a surveillance apparatus to manage their public image through intimidation is essentially cyber bullying.

ch4s3 10y ago
> manage their public image through intimidation is essentially cyber bullying When an actor representing the state does this, I think it is appropriate to call it oppression. Sure, it isn't the Stazi, interrogate you in a small room for days kind, but it isn't exactly friendly or well meaning either.
- arca_vorago 10y ago
  Tell the people who have disappeared into police run black sites like the one we know about in Chicago that, and I bet they would disagree. Interrogation for days without a lawyer sound awfully close to Stasi-esque to me. As Thomas Drake says, the Stasi would have killed for the surveillance engine regular lea's have at their disposal today.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > As Thomas Drake says, the Stasi would have killed for the surveillance engine regular lea's have at their disposal today. OTOH, "X would have killed for Y" doesn't say a lot about Y when X is not actually known to be even slightly reluctant when it comes to killing.
- TunaRailgun 10y ago
  Oh, that's happened. Don't go forgetting about the Chicago black sites and a bunch of other illegal detainment facilities that have been used (g8/g20/OWS) OWS was the big one really. It saw law enforcement cooperation not just across NA, but globally, to put down the protests, to share tactics, and also to threaten the activist leaders at the time into hiding. Many had been branded by the electronic system and profiled.