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Web apps, in my opinion and experience, don't compare to the native apps of the iPad/iPhone. Native apps look better, feel better, and perform better than web a

Web apps, in my opinion and experience, don't compare to the native apps of the iPad/iPhone. Native apps look better, feel better, and perform better than web apps on the iPhone/iPad. This idea that the browser will be the window to all apps is silly and unfortunate. If it does work out, people are forced to write applications with three parts: * HTML * CSS * Javascript * Any serverside language Instead of a single language that they're very familiar with. While I don't agree with Apple's choice to choke the amount of languages I really dislike this idea that the future of applications is 4 languages, 3 of which you don't have a choice with.

asnyder 17y ago
I agree, if you had to write in 4 languages that would be terrible. Fortunately there are frameworks like NOLOH, http://www.noloh.com http://www.noloh.com that allow you to develop in ONE language for the web, instead of the 4 you mention. Disclaimer: I'm a co-founder of NOLOH.
- krainboltgreene 17y ago
  Being forced into 1 language (PHP) is not the answer. I find it also quite disingenuous to say "allow you to develop in ONE language for the web" when you really mean "develop in a PHP framework". Consider me seriously unimpressed.
  - ekiru 17y ago
    How do you feel about Javascript? Objective-J? Why not try using Node.js for the server and Cappuccino for the client? That's a webapp with need of only one-ish(does Javascript and Objective-J count as one language?) language.
    - krainboltgreene 17y ago
      I've been through this discussion before on here actually: I'm not much of a JS fan and I don't think "Javascript on both sides" is an answer either.
  - asnyder 17y ago
    It is ONE language. NOLOH extends PHP, and you only develop in NOLOH. NOLOH has it's own syntax that's different than PHP. We accomplish this through the use of extensive syntactical sugars. You can read a little bit about this in our developer zone at http://dev.noloh.com http://dev.noloh.com. You don't code any HTML, JavaScript, or deal with the client as you would with any other framework, whether it's PHP or not. You only write code in NOLOH on the server and don't have to worry about anything else. In this regard it operates very much like it's own language, but to appeal to search engines we have to phrase it as a PHP Framework. Clearly our phrasing and presentation was confusing to you as I'm sure you simply took a cursory glance, rather than create a sandbox, or watch our numerous videos on our YouTube channel. This is clearly something we need to work on since most people will only take cursory glances.

asnyder 17y ago

I agree, if you had to write in 4 languages that would be terrible. Fortunately there are frameworks like NOLOH, http://www.noloh.com http://www.noloh.com that allow you to develop in ONE language for the web, instead of the 4 you mention. Disclaimer: I'm a co-founder of NOLOH.

krainboltgreene 17y ago
Being forced into 1 language (PHP) is not the answer. I find it also quite disingenuous to say "allow you to develop in ONE language for the web" when you really mean "develop in a PHP framework". Consider me seriously unimpressed.
- ekiru 17y ago
  How do you feel about Javascript? Objective-J? Why not try using Node.js for the server and Cappuccino for the client? That's a webapp with need of only one-ish(does Javascript and Objective-J count as one language?) language.
  - krainboltgreene 17y ago
    I've been through this discussion before on here actually: I'm not much of a JS fan and I don't think "Javascript on both sides" is an answer either.
- asnyder 17y ago
  It is ONE language. NOLOH extends PHP, and you only develop in NOLOH. NOLOH has it's own syntax that's different than PHP. We accomplish this through the use of extensive syntactical sugars. You can read a little bit about this in our developer zone at http://dev.noloh.com http://dev.noloh.com. You don't code any HTML, JavaScript, or deal with the client as you would with any other framework, whether it's PHP or not. You only write code in NOLOH on the server and don't have to worry about anything else. In this regard it operates very much like it's own language, but to appeal to search engines we have to phrase it as a PHP Framework. Clearly our phrasing and presentation was confusing to you as I'm sure you simply took a cursory glance, rather than create a sandbox, or watch our numerous videos on our YouTube channel. This is clearly something we need to work on since most people will only take cursory glances.