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I been there, getting rejected for what amounts to a CRUD job because I didn't have the right pedigree. Shake it off and move on.

eric_h 10y ago
From what I can tell from comment history, the GP is quite young and still in school. While I learned a long time ago that a degree (and even a master's degree, can't speak to fresh PhDs as I've not had the opportunity to work with any) from a prestigious university is not worth the paper it's printed on as far as judging someone's ability to actually ship good code, it seems that lots of SV firms hiring people right out of college think it is. It's foolish on the part of said firms, but the answer is to take a job at a company that's not a "unicorn" and build up experience (and proof of experience, e.g. shipped products) such that one's "pedigree" is fucking irrelevant. Honestly, if the job was just a CRUD job, and you're fresh out of college, you don't fucking want it. You need to get out of your comfort zone if you want good experience.
- buckbova 10y ago
  I've been out of college for over 10 years and I wanted the job because it was full stack at a profitable company who treated their employees well. Unfortunately my cs degree was from a state school and I've only worked enterprisey jobs with the current misfortune of an architect title. I still have other paths to financial success like consulting or management (hell no).
  - eric_h 10y ago
    Bummer. I did not actually finish my degree and as a result ended up working at a shitty, tiny company that paid at the start < 1/4 of what recent CS grads are getting these days (I was just happy to get a job that involved programming at the time). Fortunately the problem that the company was trying to solve was actually a bit technically challenging (though quite boring from a user facing perspective) and I was able to jump to a better startup and then a better one because I had good experience. I've only had three jobs since college, but the ability to bring value on the very first day in all three jobs has given me a great deal of credibility, even without a CS degree, and now I'm making quite a bit more than a recent CS grad, though it took me a while to get there (I'm in my early thirties).
  - jmathai 10y ago
    Titles don't matter. Make one up that suits the job you're applying for.

eric_h 10y ago

From what I can tell from comment history, the GP is quite young and still in school. While I learned a long time ago that a degree (and even a master's degree, can't speak to fresh PhDs as I've not had the opportunity to work with any) from a prestigious university is not worth the paper it's printed on as far as judging someone's ability to actually ship good code, it seems that lots of SV firms hiring people right out of college think it is. It's foolish on the part of said firms, but the answer is to take a job at a company that's not a "unicorn" and build up experience (and proof of experience, e.g. shipped products) such that one's "pedigree" is fucking irrelevant. Honestly, if the job was just a CRUD job, and you're fresh out of college, you don't fucking want it. You need to get out of your comfort zone if you want good experience.

buckbova 10y ago
I've been out of college for over 10 years and I wanted the job because it was full stack at a profitable company who treated their employees well. Unfortunately my cs degree was from a state school and I've only worked enterprisey jobs with the current misfortune of an architect title. I still have other paths to financial success like consulting or management (hell no).
- eric_h 10y ago
  Bummer. I did not actually finish my degree and as a result ended up working at a shitty, tiny company that paid at the start < 1/4 of what recent CS grads are getting these days (I was just happy to get a job that involved programming at the time). Fortunately the problem that the company was trying to solve was actually a bit technically challenging (though quite boring from a user facing perspective) and I was able to jump to a better startup and then a better one because I had good experience. I've only had three jobs since college, but the ability to bring value on the very first day in all three jobs has given me a great deal of credibility, even without a CS degree, and now I'm making quite a bit more than a recent CS grad, though it took me a while to get there (I'm in my early thirties).
- jmathai 10y ago
  Titles don't matter. Make one up that suits the job you're applying for.