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"Millenials" is always used in combination with derogatory terms like "entitled, lazy, hopeless". Sometimes I wonder if boomers have _any_ idea of the frantic p

by p0nce 10y ago

"Millenials" is always used in combination with derogatory terms like "entitled, lazy, hopeless". Sometimes I wonder if boomers have _any_ idea of the frantic pace of today's workplace and how little power you can hope for, regardless of how much you work.

crdoconnor 10y ago
It's used to try and drive a wedge between the elderly and the young so that the old will be apathetic about fighting against onerous student debt/shitty entry level jobs and the young will be apathetic about fighting the drive to destroy medicare, privatize social security, etc. Divide et Impera, etc. Unlike other propaganda attempts this one actually works pretty well.
zeveb 10y ago
> Sometimes I wonder if boomers have _any_ idea of the frantic pace of today's workplace and how little power you can hope for, regardless of how much you work. Millennials have as much or more power than the boomers did when they started working. The difference is that they expect more, because they spent their childhoods getting participation trophies and being waited on hand and foot by adults concerned for their comfort and 'safety.' In the real world, the reward for doing exactly what is expected of you isn't promotion: it's that you keep your job. In the real world, sometimes you're expected to sacrifice for your goals.
- whamlastxmas 10y ago
  > The difference is that they expect more, because they spent their childhoods getting participation trophies and being waited on hand and foot by adults concerned for their comfort and 'safety.' Bullshit. If millennials expect more, it's because they see the standard of living their parents and grandparents have and have had their entire life. They own homes that have gone up in value 5 fold. They owned homes at an early age. They got high paying jobs easily and costs of living were low. Youth and young adult unemployment rates are shit if you don't ignore the "discouraged workers". We have expectations for young adults to take on tremendous levels of debt like never before. Housing prices are higher than ever before. Healthcare is more expensive than ever before. Millennials are having to pay into a social security system they see their parents or grandparents benefiting from, knowing (or often not knowing) they'll never get those same benefits despite all the money paid in. The baby boomers are handing the millennials an entirely fucked up world. The environment is a disaster, politics are a disaster, the perpetual war and crony capitalism of the MIC is a disaster. Things will only get better once the boomers die off and we can rid ourselves of the "fuck you, got mine" generation.
  - serge2k 10y ago
    > politics are a disaster If things go the way of the old white people we'll probably get one last gift of a trump presidency.
    - whamlastxmas 10y ago
      It's a disaster either way, just in different ways. HRC wins and we continue to kill civilians by the tens of thousands overseas, destabilizing entire regions in the Middle East. All the problems of our current status quo get worse. People in power continue to cement their position there. I don't think HRC is going to be any different from Obama and I can't imagine she's going to do anything positive he hasn't already done. Trump wins and we get a likely ineffective commander in chief and congress becomes a useless sack of potatoes, getting upset that their bullshit has been called out and going home with their toys. Definitely hope for withdrawing from our perpetual war, fixing our election and campaigning systems, and making future elections much better at representing what most people want. Between the two, I go with Trump, if nothing else because it means more hope for a future of better elections and putting an end to blowing up women and children every day with drone strikes. Yeah there are some bad characters in his supporter base and some of what Trump says is equally as stupid as what HRC says. At least I can believe Trump sometimes, which isn't the case with HRC.
- serge2k 10y ago
  > In the real world In the real world, arrogant people act like condescending jerks for no apparent reason.
- p0nce 10y ago
  Argumentum at "real world". It's not even worth answering.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> "Millenials" is always used in combination with derogatory terms like "entitled, lazy, hopeless" No, its not. > Sometimes I wonder if boomers have _any_ idea of the frantic pace of today's workplace Probably many of them don't. Then again, its not boomers that are mostly writing about "Millenials" (there's probably more Millenials writing about Millenials than Boomers doing so, and Gen-Xers are probably next. There's certainly more Boomers than Xers, but a lot of them are retired rather than trying to eke out a living in the frantic pace of today's publishing workplace.)

by p0nce 10y ago

crdoconnor 10y ago

It's used to try and drive a wedge between the elderly and the young so that the old will be apathetic about fighting against onerous student debt/shitty entry level jobs and the young will be apathetic about fighting the drive to destroy medicare, privatize social security, etc. Divide et Impera, etc. Unlike other propaganda attempts this one actually works pretty well.

zeveb 10y ago

> Sometimes I wonder if boomers have _any_ idea of the frantic pace of today's workplace and how little power you can hope for, regardless of how much you work. Millennials have as much or more power than the boomers did when they started working. The difference is that they expect more, because they spent their childhoods getting participation trophies and being waited on hand and foot by adults concerned for their comfort and 'safety.' In the real world, the reward for doing exactly what is expected of you isn't promotion: it's that you keep your job. In the real world, sometimes you're expected to sacrifice for your goals.

whamlastxmas 10y ago
> The difference is that they expect more, because they spent their childhoods getting participation trophies and being waited on hand and foot by adults concerned for their comfort and 'safety.' Bullshit. If millennials expect more, it's because they see the standard of living their parents and grandparents have and have had their entire life. They own homes that have gone up in value 5 fold. They owned homes at an early age. They got high paying jobs easily and costs of living were low. Youth and young adult unemployment rates are shit if you don't ignore the "discouraged workers". We have expectations for young adults to take on tremendous levels of debt like never before. Housing prices are higher than ever before. Healthcare is more expensive than ever before. Millennials are having to pay into a social security system they see their parents or grandparents benefiting from, knowing (or often not knowing) they'll never get those same benefits despite all the money paid in. The baby boomers are handing the millennials an entirely fucked up world. The environment is a disaster, politics are a disaster, the perpetual war and crony capitalism of the MIC is a disaster. Things will only get better once the boomers die off and we can rid ourselves of the "fuck you, got mine" generation.
- serge2k 10y ago
  > politics are a disaster If things go the way of the old white people we'll probably get one last gift of a trump presidency.
  - whamlastxmas 10y ago
    It's a disaster either way, just in different ways. HRC wins and we continue to kill civilians by the tens of thousands overseas, destabilizing entire regions in the Middle East. All the problems of our current status quo get worse. People in power continue to cement their position there. I don't think HRC is going to be any different from Obama and I can't imagine she's going to do anything positive he hasn't already done. Trump wins and we get a likely ineffective commander in chief and congress becomes a useless sack of potatoes, getting upset that their bullshit has been called out and going home with their toys. Definitely hope for withdrawing from our perpetual war, fixing our election and campaigning systems, and making future elections much better at representing what most people want. Between the two, I go with Trump, if nothing else because it means more hope for a future of better elections and putting an end to blowing up women and children every day with drone strikes. Yeah there are some bad characters in his supporter base and some of what Trump says is equally as stupid as what HRC says. At least I can believe Trump sometimes, which isn't the case with HRC.
serge2k 10y ago
> In the real world In the real world, arrogant people act like condescending jerks for no apparent reason.
p0nce 10y ago
Argumentum at "real world". It's not even worth answering.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> "Millenials" is always used in combination with derogatory terms like "entitled, lazy, hopeless" No, its not. > Sometimes I wonder if boomers have _any_ idea of the frantic pace of today's workplace Probably many of them don't. Then again, its not boomers that are mostly writing about "Millenials" (there's probably more Millenials writing about Millenials than Boomers doing so, and Gen-Xers are probably next. There's certainly more Boomers than Xers, but a lot of them are retired rather than trying to eke out a living in the frantic pace of today's publishing workplace.)