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> Let's wait five years and see if there is actually any consensus on it being needed and used at all, rather than rush into something just because "we can". T
by pawadu 10y ago
> Let's wait five years and see if there is actually any consensus on it being needed and used at all, rather than rush into something just because "we can".
This is why every project maintainer dreams of being Linus...
- buserror 10y agoWell it IS pretty useful; that's why most of my documents start with a date part like "160822 Something Something"; they'll still be sorted by /creation time/ next time I make a change. Also very useful for photographs for example, when you can edit the EXIF without the whole lot becoming randomly sorted.
- kalleboo 10y agoYeah, I use creation time all the time on OS X. Meanwhile I can't imagine what access time would be used for.
- Xophmeister 10y agoWe use atime at work as a proxy for "does this file really need to exist?" on our cluster's scratch disks.
- 0x0 10y agoatime is heavily used by traditional mail clients like mutt, to determine which mailboxes have new mail: If atime < mtime, then there has been a write to a file since the last read. Because updating atime on every file access carries an IO overhead, there's a mount option "relatime" that only updates atime if atime < mtime. This preserves the "new mail" feature of mutt, but doesn't require atime writes for every file read operation, which is a decent compromise.
- c3833174 10y agorelatime has also been the default on Linux for many years.
- swiley 10y agoI've been wanting to write a program that checks atime on stuff like music and then looks for bitcoin addresses to send micropayments to (so you get something like a generalised peer to peer Spotify). I've started a couple times but kept throwing it out, all my FSs that support it are still mounted with atime. I guess I've never knowingly used it for anything else though.
- forgetfullest 10y agoOnce you go YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS for photographs, you'll never go back (having the exact millisecond would be neat though)
- CaptSpify 10y agos/photographs/your documents/g
- golanggeek 10y agoReally true.. People do many things, because they can
- joelthelion 10y ago> This is why every project maintainer dreams of being Linus... Most people who try do it poorly though. You have to be super smart to reject unneeded stuff while still allowing useful features to go through.
- okwhatthe2 10y agoNo you don't, you just have to fight for it.
- simonh 10y agoFighting hard isn't en end in itself. We'd have idiots fighting to the bitter end for cruft they happen to be personally invested in. It's really about taking responsibility for all the consequences of your decisions seriously.
- okwhatthe2 10y agoIdiots fighting to the bitter end is a large part of what molds society today, unless I have severely missed something. Please educate me if I have. I'm not sure "it's" really about taking responsibility for all the consequences of your decisions seriously, as much as it is creating the space and mechanisms for your ideas to come to fruition. We cannot "see" the consequences of our actions, but we can create systems that stabilize the world. Perhaps this is what you're talking about?