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Why and when I need create a new file system on Windows other than FAT or NTFS? This problem seems interesting.

mateuszf 10y ago
It's not about creating new filesystems, but using filesystem ui to browse any filesystem like hierarchy. For example using a potential implementation you as a user could be browsing S3, remote NFS, or gmail account where labels would be represented as folders and emails as text files.
- Arnavion 10y ago
  Powershell providers get you quite the way there, though of course only PS understands them so they're not useful for other applications.
- NTripleOne 10y ago
  > gmail account where labels would be represented as folders and emails as text files. Okay, this sounds incredible - is this an actual doable thing here?
  - mverwijs 10y ago
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS.
  - wyldfire 10y ago
    This was a big deal when gmail was first announced and they said they would give away one gigabyte (!!) worth of email storage with every (free!) account. These days, dropbox, drive and many other similar services provide a much more straightforward mapping to a storage service.
Annatar 10y ago
You don't. Where this comes in as useful is when you have a dual boot system, and you want to access your ext3 filesystems from Windows, for example. It would also be useful for running FUSE ZFS, since ZFS can protect data in ways which are science fiction for NTFS.
- Zardoz84 10y ago
  Or BTRFS or EXT4 or XFS or etc... On any case NTFS feels a lot outdate against any other FS, plus It helps a lot to the people (like me) that works half time on Linux, half time on Windows. Instead of keep the shared data on NTFS, I could dream of using BTRFs and keep a time machine like system using snapshots....
  - urza 10y ago
    Btrfs isn't there yet in terms of stability and who knows if it ever will be with current implementation. Ext4 doest have snapshots or data integrity as ZFS.. Sorry I don't want to nitpick but just in case someone is considering it.. Do your research about filesystem first. ZFS has no equal at this time.
  - Annatar 10y ago
    BTRFS is in a perpetual beta because the developer(s) haven't been able to iron out all the bugs. Not even the filesystem format has stabilized yet. (Open)ZFS, on the other hand, has ten years of enterprise production use under its belt. And versioned filesystem and feature flags, so the latest OpenZFS can read all its previous versions (and ignore unknown feature flags) without breaking backward compatibility. Like the other commenter stated, it has no equal right now. Closest thing to ZFS, conceptually, is the Oracle automatic storage management (ASM). While ASM is available on Windows, ZFS is not, but FUSE might actually let you run it. Might.
therealmarv 10y ago
EncFS, sshfs, ext3, on the fly Amazon Drive, Google Drive reading etc. etc.
dangravell 10y ago
My fave project using FUSE: https://khenriks.github.io/mp3fs/ https://khenriks.github.io/mp3fs/
- billziss 10y ago
  Just for kicks I just ported mp3fs to Cygwin using WinFsp and Cygfuse. It is getting to dinner time and I have to be with the family, but I will post more on this in a day or two.
  - billziss 10y ago
    Ok, after this Pull Request is merged into Cygfuse, anyone will be able to compile MP3FS on Cygwin. https://github.com/mgeisert/cygfuse/pull/2 https://github.com/mgeisert/cygfuse/pull/2
gwbas1c 10y ago
You don't. Dokany allows a user-mode application to expose its own virtual drive. Examples of possible use cases: - Mount a zip file as a drive letter - Mount an ftp site as a drive letter - Mount an Android device as a drive letter In all the above cases, there's ways to view zip files, ftp sites, and Android devices in Explorer; but you can not open these files in any application you want unless they are copied to a local disk.

It's not about creating new filesystems, but using filesystem ui to browse any filesystem like hierarchy. For example using a potential implementation you as a user could be browsing S3, remote NFS, or gmail account where labels would be represented as folders and emails as text files.

Arnavion 10y ago
Powershell providers get you quite the way there, though of course only PS understands them so they're not useful for other applications.
NTripleOne 10y ago
> gmail account where labels would be represented as folders and emails as text files. Okay, this sounds incredible - is this an actual doable thing here?
- mverwijs 10y ago
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS.
- wyldfire 10y ago
  This was a big deal when gmail was first announced and they said they would give away one gigabyte (!!) worth of email storage with every (free!) account. These days, dropbox, drive and many other similar services provide a much more straightforward mapping to a storage service.

Annatar 10y ago

You don't. Where this comes in as useful is when you have a dual boot system, and you want to access your ext3 filesystems from Windows, for example. It would also be useful for running FUSE ZFS, since ZFS can protect data in ways which are science fiction for NTFS.

Zardoz84 10y ago
Or BTRFS or EXT4 or XFS or etc... On any case NTFS feels a lot outdate against any other FS, plus It helps a lot to the people (like me) that works half time on Linux, half time on Windows. Instead of keep the shared data on NTFS, I could dream of using BTRFs and keep a time machine like system using snapshots....
- urza 10y ago
  Btrfs isn't there yet in terms of stability and who knows if it ever will be with current implementation. Ext4 doest have snapshots or data integrity as ZFS.. Sorry I don't want to nitpick but just in case someone is considering it.. Do your research about filesystem first. ZFS has no equal at this time.
- Annatar 10y ago
  BTRFS is in a perpetual beta because the developer(s) haven't been able to iron out all the bugs. Not even the filesystem format has stabilized yet. (Open)ZFS, on the other hand, has ten years of enterprise production use under its belt. And versioned filesystem and feature flags, so the latest OpenZFS can read all its previous versions (and ignore unknown feature flags) without breaking backward compatibility. Like the other commenter stated, it has no equal right now. Closest thing to ZFS, conceptually, is the Oracle automatic storage management (ASM). While ASM is available on Windows, ZFS is not, but FUSE might actually let you run it. Might.

therealmarv 10y ago

EncFS, sshfs, ext3, on the fly Amazon Drive, Google Drive reading etc. etc.

dangravell 10y ago

My fave project using FUSE: https://khenriks.github.io/mp3fs/ https://khenriks.github.io/mp3fs/

billziss 10y ago
Just for kicks I just ported mp3fs to Cygwin using WinFsp and Cygfuse. It is getting to dinner time and I have to be with the family, but I will post more on this in a day or two.
- billziss 10y ago
  Ok, after this Pull Request is merged into Cygfuse, anyone will be able to compile MP3FS on Cygwin. https://github.com/mgeisert/cygfuse/pull/2 https://github.com/mgeisert/cygfuse/pull/2

gwbas1c 10y ago

You don't. Dokany allows a user-mode application to expose its own virtual drive. Examples of possible use cases: - Mount a zip file as a drive letter - Mount an ftp site as a drive letter - Mount an Android device as a drive letter In all the above cases, there's ways to view zip files, ftp sites, and Android devices in Explorer; but you can not open these files in any application you want unless they are copied to a local disk.