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have you try KDE 4 recently? There is a lot of hate around KDE 4 thanks to the initial versions, but actually is the best DE for GNU/Linux

partycoder 10y ago
"Best" in everything? or best in specific aspects? Have you tried Pantheon? (elementary OS)
- Zardoz84 10y ago
  That can be customized a lot (instead of the Gnome mindset of "Do on my way or fuck your self"), and run fast even without 2d/3d acceleration (aka the old good X11 SVGA driver ) ? PD: Add that anything based on Qt can handle faulty graphics drivers far better that Gtk3.
  - partycoder 10y ago
    And KDE 4 wasn't realized exactly with the mindset you describe with so much candor? Now Plasma 5 can be more flexible, sure. But when you don't give users a usable alternative for years people tend to look for alternatives.
DiThi 10y ago
At some point (after years!) it became OK and I went back to it, but it was never as good as KDE 3.5 was for me. I realized it was not just nostalgia, when a friend showed me a laptop with KDE 3.5 and used it for some minutes. While the whole DE got worse, there's two pieces that got better and better, Kate and KWin.
- flukus 10y ago
  And desktop applets. KDE 4 is the only environment I ever used where these were stable and reliable.
  - DiThi 10y ago
    > stable and reliable They were not, for a few years.
    - flukus 10y ago
      They were for me, even on 4.0. Nothing else worked, but the plasma widgets did.
distances 10y ago
KDE 4 is not updated any more, is it? I switched to KDE 5 well over a year ago, and found it better already back then. It's very solid these days I think.
- deno 10y ago
  In fact KDE (Plasma) 5.8 will be an LTR. https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.95.php https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.95.php
makomk 10y ago
KDE 4 was pretty decent by the time they abandoned it in favour of the still-immature KDE 5 (or Plasma 5 or whatever they're calling it now). The CADT approach to software development is really annoying.

partycoder 10y ago

"Best" in everything? or best in specific aspects? Have you tried Pantheon? (elementary OS)

Zardoz84 10y ago
That can be customized a lot (instead of the Gnome mindset of "Do on my way or fuck your self"), and run fast even without 2d/3d acceleration (aka the old good X11 SVGA driver ) ? PD: Add that anything based on Qt can handle faulty graphics drivers far better that Gtk3.
- partycoder 10y ago
  And KDE 4 wasn't realized exactly with the mindset you describe with so much candor? Now Plasma 5 can be more flexible, sure. But when you don't give users a usable alternative for years people tend to look for alternatives.

DiThi 10y ago

At some point (after years!) it became OK and I went back to it, but it was never as good as KDE 3.5 was for me. I realized it was not just nostalgia, when a friend showed me a laptop with KDE 3.5 and used it for some minutes. While the whole DE got worse, there's two pieces that got better and better, Kate and KWin.

flukus 10y ago
And desktop applets. KDE 4 is the only environment I ever used where these were stable and reliable.
- DiThi 10y ago
  > stable and reliable They were not, for a few years.
  - flukus 10y ago
    They were for me, even on 4.0. Nothing else worked, but the plasma widgets did.

distances 10y ago

KDE 4 is not updated any more, is it? I switched to KDE 5 well over a year ago, and found it better already back then. It's very solid these days I think.

deno 10y ago
In fact KDE (Plasma) 5.8 will be an LTR. https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.95.php https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.7.95.php

makomk 10y ago

KDE 4 was pretty decent by the time they abandoned it in favour of the still-immature KDE 5 (or Plasma 5 or whatever they're calling it now). The CADT approach to software development is really annoying.