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But does the license permit you to use the free version to do work? The issue isn't the alerts it's compliance with the spirit and letter of the shareware versi

by eli 10y ago

But does the license permit you to use the free version to do work? The issue isn't the alerts it's compliance with the spirit and letter of the shareware version.

bdcravens 10y ago
"Sublime Text may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use." There is no separate shareware version. What makes Sublime unique is that it never stops working; it's evaluation period is open, and treats the user as an adult to do the right and legal thing.
- flukus 10y ago
  Not really unique, it used to be very common. Remember winzip?
  - bdcravens 10y ago
    True - winrar and mirc also come to mind. In today's world of app store DRM at one end and open source options at the other, it's definitely a stand-out more than it would have been a few years ago.
    - distances 10y ago
      But in this case it also works very well, I think. I know very few people willing to pay $70 for a text editor, but getting to try it out and verify that it's a really good text editor does change things somewhat.
      - flukus 10y ago
        I think plenty of us would pay for vim or emacs had history played out differently.
  - baldfat 10y ago
    Reaper a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) is $65 and is free to evaluate and doesn't hinder usage. All other DAWs are betweem $250-$500++. I use to use one that cost $1,000 I use Reaper and thrown my money at them. I do get mad when people don't give them money since I really appreciate the model.
- eli 10y ago
  I don't want to get lost in semantics argument but "a free version that you're supposed to pay for if you continue to use it for extended periods" is exactly what I meant by shareware. It's great that Sublime doesn't have strong DRM, but using the free version indefinitely is just as wrong as using a cracked version of Photoshop, IMHO.
captainmuon 10y ago
Does it really bother you? Sometimes I'm concerned I'm a sociopath or similar because I don't care at all about the honor of complying with the license. If no one sees me pirate it and there are no consequences, who cares? I do care about my fellow developer who wrote ST and seems a nice guy, which is a reason to pay... So maybe I'm not a sociopath after all.
- eli 10y ago
  Yes, it bothers me and I don't really understand the distinction you're making: the developer you admire is the one who wrote that license that "requires" payment so you pay for it because they asked you to, not because anyone's watching. And as someone running a business, it is a significant and unnecessary liability to use pirated or unlicensed software.

by eli 10y ago

But does the license permit you to use the free version to do work? The issue isn't the alerts it's compliance with the spirit and letter of the shareware version.

bdcravens 10y ago

"Sublime Text may be downloaded and evaluated for free, however a license must be purchased for continued use." There is no separate shareware version. What makes Sublime unique is that it never stops working; it's evaluation period is open, and treats the user as an adult to do the right and legal thing.

flukus 10y ago
Not really unique, it used to be very common. Remember winzip?
- bdcravens 10y ago
  True - winrar and mirc also come to mind. In today's world of app store DRM at one end and open source options at the other, it's definitely a stand-out more than it would have been a few years ago.
  - distances 10y ago
    But in this case it also works very well, I think. I know very few people willing to pay $70 for a text editor, but getting to try it out and verify that it's a really good text editor does change things somewhat.
    - flukus 10y ago
      I think plenty of us would pay for vim or emacs had history played out differently.
- baldfat 10y ago
  Reaper a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) is $65 and is free to evaluate and doesn't hinder usage. All other DAWs are betweem $250-$500++. I use to use one that cost $1,000 I use Reaper and thrown my money at them. I do get mad when people don't give them money since I really appreciate the model.
eli 10y ago
I don't want to get lost in semantics argument but "a free version that you're supposed to pay for if you continue to use it for extended periods" is exactly what I meant by shareware. It's great that Sublime doesn't have strong DRM, but using the free version indefinitely is just as wrong as using a cracked version of Photoshop, IMHO.

captainmuon 10y ago

Does it really bother you? Sometimes I'm concerned I'm a sociopath or similar because I don't care at all about the honor of complying with the license. If no one sees me pirate it and there are no consequences, who cares? I do care about my fellow developer who wrote ST and seems a nice guy, which is a reason to pay... So maybe I'm not a sociopath after all.

eli 10y ago
Yes, it bothers me and I don't really understand the distinction you're making: the developer you admire is the one who wrote that license that "requires" payment so you pay for it because they asked you to, not because anyone's watching. And as someone running a business, it is a significant and unnecessary liability to use pirated or unlicensed software.