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It would still be useful to distinguish between innovations that hundreds of millions of people use -- including me -- and your personal requirements. Sadly, th

by scholia 10y ago

It would still be useful to distinguish between innovations that hundreds of millions of people use -- including me -- and your personal requirements. Sadly, the whole IT world does not actually revolve around those ;-)

sevensor 10y ago
Sure, and I'm careful not to impose my value judgements about whether an innovation is actually interesting to the question of whether it's an innovation. But personally I find that improving touch interfaces is this decade's version of adding a wheel to the mouse.
- scholia 10y ago
  You said Linux was "a real threat, especially with MS failing to innovate." This was an unrestricted claim that ignored a massive amount of Microsoft innovation. I pointed out that you were wrong and now you're quibbling about another of your personal opinions. Why make the same mistake twice? Seems to me that the whole Microsoft Windows ecosystem -- across Azure, PCs, games consoles, smartphones, and iOS and Android devices -- shows far more innovation than Linux. If you want to provide a list of Linux innovation to compare with my incomplete list above, I'd be interested to see it. Be even better if you could address the whole market, without restricting it to your personal peccadilloes.
  - sevensor 10y ago
    > You said Linux was "a real threat, especially with MS failing to innovate." You're quoting somebody else there, friend. I jumped on this particular subthread because I wanted to point out that your list of innovations boils down to "Microsoft improved the user interface for touch devices." > your personal peccadilloes Peccadilloes? I do not think that means what you think it means.
    - scholia 10y ago
      > You're quoting somebody else there, friend. Sorry. My apologies! > I jumped on this particular subthread because I wanted to point out that your list of innovations boils down to "Microsoft improved the user interface for touch devices." No, it doesn't. I use most of them on a desktop PC that doesn't include touch. Also, cloud and cross-platform capabilities go beyond touch. > Peccadilloes? I do not think that means what you think it means. I know what it means. And in the UK, it's not specifically sexual in connotation. However, I did spell it wrong ;-)

by scholia 10y ago

sevensor 10y ago

Sure, and I'm careful not to impose my value judgements about whether an innovation is actually interesting to the question of whether it's an innovation. But personally I find that improving touch interfaces is this decade's version of adding a wheel to the mouse.

scholia 10y ago
You said Linux was "a real threat, especially with MS failing to innovate." This was an unrestricted claim that ignored a massive amount of Microsoft innovation. I pointed out that you were wrong and now you're quibbling about another of your personal opinions. Why make the same mistake twice? Seems to me that the whole Microsoft Windows ecosystem -- across Azure, PCs, games consoles, smartphones, and iOS and Android devices -- shows far more innovation than Linux. If you want to provide a list of Linux innovation to compare with my incomplete list above, I'd be interested to see it. Be even better if you could address the whole market, without restricting it to your personal peccadilloes.
- sevensor 10y ago
  > You said Linux was "a real threat, especially with MS failing to innovate." You're quoting somebody else there, friend. I jumped on this particular subthread because I wanted to point out that your list of innovations boils down to "Microsoft improved the user interface for touch devices." > your personal peccadilloes Peccadilloes? I do not think that means what you think it means.
  - scholia 10y ago
    > You're quoting somebody else there, friend. Sorry. My apologies! > I jumped on this particular subthread because I wanted to point out that your list of innovations boils down to "Microsoft improved the user interface for touch devices." No, it doesn't. I use most of them on a desktop PC that doesn't include touch. Also, cloud and cross-platform capabilities go beyond touch. > Peccadilloes? I do not think that means what you think it means. I know what it means. And in the UK, it's not specifically sexual in connotation. However, I did spell it wrong ;-)