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Sublime Text 3 Build 3124

323 points by tiagocorrea 10y ago

putlake 10y ago
On Mac I use TextWrangler for quick editing and VS Code as the IDE. I never need to open super large files so after reading this discussion I tried to open a 177MB text file in TextWrangler and it opened quickly and was editable. Searching within the file was also super fast.
spdustin 10y ago
From the release notes [0]: > Minor improvements to file load times I didn't even realize there was room to squeeze out more performance here. Sublime Text is wicked-fast opening pretty much everything I throw at it. [0]: https://www.sublimetext.com/3 https://www.sublimetext.com/3
- CJKinni 10y ago
  I agree, but I'm also glad they're still working at it. Sublime Text is my go to text editor for files over 10MB, and it can get a little slow loading anything over 1GB. It's awesome to know that it'll be a little faster when I get into work tomorrow.
  - Koshkin 10y ago
    Just curious, why would one want to open a 10MB (let alone a 1GB) file in a text editor? Isn't that something that could be better (that is, more efficiently) handled by the likes of grep, head, tail, sed or awk? It's like issuing a database query that returns a million rows when a more specific query would have been a better choice because it would result in substantially less data to look at.
    - wbond 10y ago
      I used the SQLite source file when working on the C syntax rewrite a few months ago. It is almost 7MB. Being able to jump to the definition of a function, even when contained in a source file that is 200k lines can be handy.
    - GuiA 10y ago
      The answer is going to sound terribly boring, but as someone who frequently deals with very large files of structured text: sometimes you just want to look at your data and quickly jump around. I want direct manipulation, not a data querying/manipulation DSL (whether that's grep, sed, SQL, etc)
      - SiVal 10y ago
        I wholeheartedly agree that it doesn't sound like much, but sometimes all I'm doing is applying general, human intelligence to the very vague question of, Is there anything in here that I'm not aware of but should be? That's not an easy query to write in grep or SQL, but it's a common query that often turns out to be important, so I handle it the old-fashioned way: I look it over with human eyes and see what I find.
      - Elrac 10y ago
        Here's a "me too!" I spend a lot of time less-ing around in log files, but then every once in a while I need or at least want the full power of an editor to act on those files. Be it converting one kind of line delimiter to another so I can visually understand the structure of strange messages, excerpting blocks of the log to files,... lots of things I can do easily in vim (and probably could do in ST if I had ST in my environment) and not nearly so convenient otherwise.
    - DigitalJack 10y ago
      I don't know why you are being downvoted, it seems like a legitimate question to me. I routinely edit text files that are hundreds of megabytes, and sometimes over a gig. These are usually transcripts from chip simulations, where I'm tracking down where something went wrong. Most often I do this in emacs, and sometimes vim. They both do fine with it, although emacs used to warn about files over a certain limit. It has always done fine with them in practice.
      - DavidWanjiru 10y ago
        Lately, HN down-votes seem to me have a very "boo boy" thing about them. There's nothing in the original comment that would warrant a down-vote.
        porker 10y ago
        Upvoting you for that. I've noticed a change too; it's reduced the amount I comment.
    - Bluestrike2 10y ago
      Oh man, you should take a look at NIH gene data someday if you really want to blow a gasket. Pretty much everything is over 1GB, and there are many, many files to work with when you're really only looking for a very specific subset of the data. I remember helping a friend of mine who's a grad student with them for his research.
    - markatkinson 10y ago
      I found myself doing this more and more often as a data provider that most of our clients used started to drop the ball with the data they were distributing. Including things like extra comma's in descriptions, letters in monetary figures etc. I actually found Notepad++ the fastest for opening CSV's, XML etc. Nipped this in the bud quickly and made a small windows GUI that scans source files for common issues.
    - PeterisP 10y ago
      For starters, if you'd want to eyeball a particular location in e.g. a 100mb data file that's not plain text but common text-ish formats such as xml or json, then you'd want prettyprint/reindent and syntax highlight; and using search/replace regex interactively gives much better immediate feedback about results (i.e. if this is what you wanted) than doing the same with grep/sed.
    - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
      In my case: logs, when I'm troubleshooting something, but not sure what I'm looking for :)
  - stinos 10y ago
    Not on Windows unfortunately: large files are still painstakingly slow, I think slower than any other editor out there (including crap like notepad). No idea what code ST on Windows uses to load files, but it's obviously not the proper way to do it.
  - pwenzel 10y ago
    For me, the only thing that remains slow to open in Sublime Text are giant SQL dumps. This is super rare, and is easily remedied with TextWrangler, which opens huge files in milliseconds, with syntax highlighting. That said, I will happily shell out for any future paid releases. I live in this editor. It's my primary code editing and note-taking tool.
  - kaushalmodi 10y ago
    I have to occasionally play with 300MB+ log files and emacs handles those smoothly. So I can't imagine just 10MB begin a bottleneck for any editor :)
bcherny 10y ago
Does Sublime still exist? With all the hubub about VSCode and Atom, I've sort of forgotten about it.
- zzleeper 10y ago
  And it's still improving quite a bit (syntax definition files seem much better than on the atom editors, etc)
- DigitalSea 10y ago
  >Does Sublime still exist? Did you even click the link? This is an update changelog... Having said that, while competitors have popped up like Visual Studio Code which is pretty darn good, Sublime was one of the first text editors that I used years ago when the landscape was primarily dominated by Dreamweaver and TextMate. It was a step-up from Notepad++ which many open source lovers used, but lacked the finesse that ST brought to the table. When it comes to opening large files, especially large SQL dumps >1gb, Sublime Text is still the king in my opinion. I still occasionally need to do a find and replace on a large file and nothing beats Sublime Text (except maybe command line editors like Vi/Vim, which I can't use). I primarily focus on front-end development nowadays, so I primarily use Webstorm, but if I need to write some Markdown, edit some PHP/Python or edit large files, Sublime is still my go-to. Such a shame people think you need to update something every day to keep using it, ST has been incredibly stable for years now. Even ST3 which was in beta for years has been quite stable.
  - threeseed 10y ago
    > Did you even click the link? This is an update changelog... They haven't exactly been keeping to a regular update schedule. So not hard to blame people for wondering if it was abandoned or not.
    - robotresearcher 10y ago
      Also not unreasonable to expect people to take a glance at the article they are commenting on.
derefr 10y ago
> a menu entry to install Package Control If Sublime is going to acknowledge Package Control, why not just ship with it? I'm sure the Package Control folks would be glad to move their repo upstream.
- skybrian 10y ago
  Seems like that would make it harder to upgrade Package Control?
- wbond 10y ago
  I've been working for Jon since January. Part of the reason is allowing it to have a different release cadence, but also to not default to making outbound network connections without a user opting in.
  - voltagex_ 10y ago
    Definitely appreciate that, but couldn't it be a click-through prompt before making a connection? VLC does something similar on first install.
- connorshea 10y ago
  They hired the guy developing Package Control and I believe they're working on integrating it into Sublime, just a matter of time.
- amorphid 10y ago
  I like Atom's built in package management. Less to think about.
  - pawelgrzybek 10y ago
    You are comparing 30mb tiny text editor with 300mb Electon build. You have a nice package manager, but you are loosing performance. You have optional package manager and lightning fast amazing tiny text editor. Choice is yours.
connorshea 10y ago
I really, really wish it was open source. I understand why it isn't, but with its main competitors being Atom and VSCode, it's hard to warrant using a closed source text editor even if it's so much faster and I'm used to it.
- overcast 10y ago
  As far as I'm concerned, Atom isn't even in the running. It's clunky, and slow. VS Code is awesome, but is missing some crucial plugins that Sublime has. Namely proper SFTP support. The only one available is junk, and it regularly crashes the entire app with only attempting to sync a few hundred files.
- eropple 10y ago
  Why is it hard to "warrant" it? Sublime is a better editor for my purposes. It runs everywhere. I use it. Done.
- mangeletti 10y ago
  I've never been more impressed by an editor than I am by Sublime. Literally everything about the editor is excellent[1]. My rule of thumb is: If I'm on a server via SSH, it's Vim. Otherwise, it's Sublime. 1. Actually... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553584 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553584 (sorry if you're a robot and just got stuck in recursion)
  - nitemice 10y ago
    If you really wanted, you may be able to eliminate Vim from your workflow altogether: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15958056/how-to-use-sublime-over-ssh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15958056/how-to-use-subli...
    - bpicolo 10y ago
      Only if you have a single, constant remote. I've used osx fuse + Sublime a lot. It's not perfect. If you change something on the remote through not-sublime, sublime doesn't pick up changes for a long time (rather, your OS doesnt, not Sublime's fault). That said, decent for the day to day. If you're hitting moving target servers, docker, etc, you still need to have some basic vim or emacs or nano knowledge.
pbnjay 10y ago
Whoa very nice new features! Now I need GoSublime to support them!
woodruffw 10y ago
Awesome! I'm especially liking the Phantoms API - there's a ton of potential there for richer plugins and graphical inlining. I've moved between maybe half a dozen editors over the past half-decade, but I always end up coming back to Sublime.
sagivo 10y ago
sublime is by far my favorite editor. fast and lots of plugins. specially if you work with big files. i sometimes need to work with files larger than 150MB and it takes few seconds to open. atom crushes and can't even open the files.
- traduz 10y ago
  Been using it for a long time and that's the main reason i do, so good at looking at those huge log files.
- CameronBanga 10y ago
  Agree. The number of times a year I need to open a a crazy large file in reality, is fairly small. But I love that when I do, my tool of choice works perfectly with these files and I don't need to bust out a specialty text editor.
wkirby 10y ago
Actually the only thing that keeps me from switching back to ST3 is Atoms first class support for `.gitignore` and excluding files from the quick open menu. I know there's a package that claims to update the file ignore pattern to match the open project, but it really doesn't work well at all.
- drhayes9 10y ago
  This is my exact issue! That's what keeps me coming back to Atom even though Sublime is much, much faster. The last package I saw tackle this required you to make a project -- which I just never do in Sublime.
  - imjared 10y ago
    Creating a projectname.sublime-project is usually my first step when I start a new development project. In fact, I do it so much I have a text expander shortcut for it. Then I have a short bash alias `lime` that takes the place of `subl`: https://gist.github.com/imjared/db14e2c92df864ae048e1d2a94d08c0f https://gist.github.com/imjared/db14e2c92df864ae048e1d2a94d0... The benefit seems to be that it _isn't_ synced with my .gitignore so I never have to worry about accidentally committing a .env or similar. I can toggle files and folders on and off as I need to.
- MatekCopatek 10y ago
  I second that, along with .gitignore handling I also terribly miss having new and changed files (in git) highlighted in the sidebar, which Atom has out of the box. They have a lot of feature requests for that, since their sidebar API doesn't even allow package developers to add it, and just like your case, it's the only feature keeping me from going back.
- teddyc 10y ago
  Create a Sublime project. You can have project settings to ignore file and folder patterns. I set this up at the same time I create a .gitignore file for a repo. Whenever you re-open a project, it re-opens every tab you had when you closed the project, which is really nice. Even unsaved files are restored. https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/projects.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/projects.html
mangeletti 10y ago
I have one single complaint about Sublime Text: In order to truly clear your history (files open, last searches, etc.), I have to maintain a script with the following: find ~ -name *.sublime-workspace -delete rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/Sublime\ Text\ 3/Local/Session.sublime_session Other than that, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553515
- slowmovintarget 10y ago
  My complaint is actually not with ST3, but with Package Control. I have to maintain my user preferences in git because PC rewrites them and resets the theme every time it updates. (I run the Material Design theme)
  - dman 10y ago
    This might possibly be fixed by using PackageResourceViewer. It allows you to edit the package files for themes and have your changes stick. (I use this to change the font size for the tree on the left in the theme file, and I only had to make this change once).
  - dabernathy89 10y ago
    Wow, this isn't just me! I got tired of it and just switched back to the default theme.
  - wbond 10y ago
    When you say "reset" do you mean it doesn't re-enable the Material theme once the upgrade is complete?
    - slowmovintarget 10y ago
      Yes. This used to be a problem every time. In the last month or so this has happened to me only twice.
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dman 10y ago
One minor feature request - can you please simplify the setting of font size for the tree browser and for the menu entries. (I know that tree browser font size can be set by the theme, but it is a bit non trivial using PackageResourceViewer to patch theme files to do this). I still havent found a way to change the font size of the menu entries.
gravypod 10y ago
I wish the Sublime Text people open sourced their code. I'd buy it from them in that event and I'd finally have a text editor to recommend. Atom, VS code, and anything else is completely blown out of the water by ST. There's a reason it's still around and it's because ST is the only thing that can even think of doing what sublime text can do. Good work to the people behind it, it's an amazing feat no doubt. Just please consider making it free software for all of us who care about that just a bit. Amazing work none the less.
- zoilism 10y ago
  its' pretty much free, but for the occasional alert
  - baldfat 10y ago
    $70 doesn't seem free. Personally VS Code on Linux has been rock solid for me.
    - zoilism 10y ago
      There is a paid version and a free version. I meant that the free version works fine, except you get an occasional alert.
      - tux1968 10y ago
        There doesn't seem to be a free version at all. There is an evaluation version which is meant to tide you over until you decide to buy or abandon ST. It wouldn't be right to promote such an arrangement as a "free version".
        enraged_camel 10y ago
        The evaluation version is free and it works forever. If the developers were not OK with that, they would put a time limit on it. Since they haven't, that means they're OK with it.
dikaiosune 10y ago
Very cool to see a screenshot from servo's codebase.
- kibwen 10y ago
  Clearly this means that the Sublime Text author is envious of Atom, and intends to rip out the native GUI for some browser-based goodness. :P
modeless 10y ago
I'm surprised so many people here are using Sublime to edit >100 MB files. Yes, it handles them (as long as the lines aren't too long), but it always has to load the entire file before displaying the first line. Aren't there some editors that don't have to do that? On a related note, large files are often binary. I appreciate that Sublime can display binary files but it's pretty bare bones, and there's no editing support. I'd love to see what Sublime HQ could do if they worked on binary editing support for a couple of milestones. For example, the ability to locate and edit strings in binary files would be cool, as would a basic hex editor.
- watmough 10y ago
  Yes, I would spring the $70 in a moment for this ability. Of course I may do anyway. I like to support small software producers.
- fake-name 10y ago
  There's a pretty decent hex editor plugin for sublime: https://github.com/facelessuser/HexViewer https://github.com/facelessuser/HexViewer I've used it, and it's quite nice, but I don't know how it'd handle large files. Maybe take a look?
- PavlovsCat 10y ago
  > it always has to load the entire file before displaying the first line. Aren't there some editors that don't have to do that? http://www.ultraedit.com/ http://www.ultraedit.com/ ST is neat. UE is heavy duty.
  - wodenokoto 10y ago
    Funny this doesn't come up more often when discussing St, as it is about the same price and an old name. How is it to use?
    - PavlovsCat 10y ago
      > How is it to use? Depends on how you configure it, it can be a lot of things. The UI is pretty amazing, but I don't have the knowledge or time to do it justice in the least, sorry :) To be perfectly honest, the first time I finally tried it after hearing so much about it for so long, Sublime Text kind of disappointed me. You can't even print out of the box -- waitwhat? It does other cool things, true, and there is room for more than one text editor, text files are awesome that way. But still, I felt a bit like when everybody was going nuts over Firefox because they didn't know about Opera. I love Mozilla (a lot) and harbour no ill will towards Sublime Text, but god damnit, software isn't as tight as it used to be. I don't know anything about anything and even I can tell.
niahmiah 10y ago
nobody cares. Atom ftw
Manishearth 10y ago
> Also new in 3124 is Show Definition, which will show where a symbol is defined when hovering over it with the mouse. This makes use of the new on_hover API, and can be controlled via the show_definitions setting: Is this just an API hook which a plugin can add a definition resolver to, or does this automatically find definitions for all builtin languages? If the latter, this is super cool! If the former, I'm going to try and update https://packagecontrol.io/packages/YcmdCompletion https://packagecontrol.io/packages/YcmdCompletion for this ----- Edit: omg works out of the box. Seems to be a simple grep-based thing (so it lists all definitions of the same name), but that's still quite useful!
- sunnyps 10y ago
  It's similar to Goto Definition (F12). It's based on parsing according to the syntax definition (which only does line by line contextual parsing) so kinda like ctags. In practice it works better than the painfully slow "smart" and often non-existent* symbol navigation in IDEs (although QtCreator is very good in this regard). * for large projects
  - skrebbel 10y ago
    I suspect like you only used C++ IDEs? It's pretty much instantaneous (and always correct) in common IDEs for languages like C#, Java and TypeScript.
    - Manishearth 10y ago
      YCMD's racer based GoTo for Rust is pretty fast too, despite Rust having a complex type system.
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supergetting 10y ago
When I first started using Sublime, I disliked the occasional popups, and thought I'd just keep using it without paying $70 for a text editor?!?! But I HAD to buy the thing! Not because I wanted to avoid the annoying popup, but because of everything we know about Sublime today; performance, simplicity and intuitiveness of the UI, packaging system, etc. The article mentions that they're coming out of beta in the near future! nice! and I just noticed they're already mentioning sublime text version 4 (under sales FAQ page).
codepunker 10y ago
Amazing! ST is the only editor I considered good enough to pay for and I can see it's getting even better!
statictype 10y ago
The only thing I really want from Sublime (or VSCode) is an API that lets me display an output panel/sidebar with an html engine embedded in it. Atom provides this - it also provides arbitrary html in the editor itself which is cool but also what makes it slow. I just want it for the supplementary panels that show build outputs, documentation or other contextual information. That's enough to let me customize it for our team's usage.
- octref 10y ago
  We are working on it. [0] [0]: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/12163 https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/12163
- ricardobeat 10y ago
  From the release notes, this is one of the new features: https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html
guessmyname 10y ago
> With these latest changes, Sublime Text 3 is almost > ready to graduate out of beta, and into a 3.0 version. Wow, Finally! I have been using ST3 for several years (wow, years) and always wondered what is keeping the developer from labeling that version as stable. From all the issues reported here [1] I have never encountered one while using the editor for pretty much all my work. Those $70 are definitely worth every penny. Sometimes I cringe from videos featuring ST while using a non-registered license, this week it happened with a course from Google engineers via Udacity, Google engineers!!! As if they don't have miserable $70 to buy a license, I assumed they were in a rush and didn't have time to set the license which I hope they bought. Anyway, thanks for all the hard work Jon, and recently Will. [1] https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues
- mastazi 10y ago
  > Those $70 are definitely worth every penny. Same here, buying an ST license is probably the single best SW-related purchase that I've ever done. ST3 works so flawlessly, it's just ironic that it's still technically a beta version. It is actually much less buggy than many "final version" competitors ;-) On a side note, it is notable how, despite being a closed-source program, ST was able to generate a large ecosystem of open-source plugins; that is not something that happens every day (Jeskola Buzz comes to mind as a similar case: also closed source and with a large open-source plugins ecosystem, but I'm not sure how many people on HN are familiar with tracker-style music software, LOL).
  - jacobolus 10y ago
    ST bootstrapped its ecosystem by directly and shamelessly cloning every one of its original features from the TextMate editor, and just copy/pasting its entire ecosystem, without contributing anything back. For years there was no special support for actually working on custom features from within Sublime Text, so if you wanted to create new language grammars or syntax highlighting modes etc. you needed to do it from within TextMate. Sublime users would come to the TextMate IRC channel to complain about particular language bundle features that were buggy in the not-quite-compatible environment of ST, and ask TM users to fix it for them. Kind of comical really. Even still, TextMate is a substantially more carefully designed tool. My impression is that the Sublime programmer didn’t really understand the underlying philosophy behind many of the features he cloned, and kind of screwed up a bunch of the subtler details. (This isn’t really surprising; I’d say it pretty much always happens when anyone just copies something that exists; they seldom perfectly understand the context or ideas of the original creator, so the copy is always at least a bit degraded/distorted, with less clarity of vision.) Sublime does have the advantage of working on more platforms though.
jeffijoe 10y ago
Been using Sublime Text 3 for years (and I do have a license), and been trying out Atom/VSCode lately. Atom can get real slow, but I feel like the extensions for Atom are of higher quality (linters, TypeScript integration). I think it might have something to do with HTML/CSS/JS vs Python for plugin development.
muktabh 10y ago
Thanks for the hard work sublime text team for making programming so enjoyable. I already find ST3 so flawless that to think it still can be improved is beyond me. Once again, great going.
realraghavgupta 10y ago
Atom is really good to go, but after using it and some others, I am back to Sublime Text. They are still working on version 3.0 but the beta is also so stable.
0xmohit 10y ago
100% CPU since Build 3124 [0]. [0] https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1387 https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1387
- Egidius 10y ago
  same here :-/
  - Egidius 10y ago
    The CPU load was only for a short period. When ST3 indexed my project (which is quite large) everything was fine again
- wbond 10y ago
  Please see https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/high-cpu-usage-in-beta-3124/23060 https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/high-cpu-usage-in-beta-3124/...
martanne 10y ago
A number of people expressed the need to edit large files. For the development of my own editor[0] I would be interested to know what kind of usage patterns most often occur. What are the most important operations? Do you search for some (regex) pattern? Do you go to some specific line n? Do you copy/paste large portions of the file around? Do you often edit binary files? If so what types and what kind of changes do you perform? [0] https://github.com/martanne/vis https://github.com/martanne/vis
- TickleSteve 10y ago
  for me, regex find and find-in-files is very important for analysing large codebases. Sublime is close to ideal for this (for me). (Multi-line regexes also very useful). Don't tend to copy large portions of files around, but goto-line is used fairly often and some kind of programatic interface (REPL-style) would also be good, similar to the Sublime console. Plugins are also important for the long-tail features that are very niche. ...but... speed and lightness is also very important.... so don't use JS/CSS/HTML... please.
- PeterisP 10y ago
  1) Going to a specific location (e.g. a location that shows up in some error log about processing that data file) and eyeballing it. Being able to go to a specific location is sometimes important (e.g. row 12873, character 233). Syntax highlight is important, it sometimes makes obvious something that's subtly malformed. Syntax highlight that doesn't take an eternity for large files is a hard issue. 2) regex search/replace - interactive grep/sed. 3) Very large edits - e.g., find a specific location and remove all data entries before that so that the problematic entry now would be the first one; essentially cutting away half of a very large file. 4) Do note that you might have very, very large lines - it's not that uncommon to have the whole file in a single line, e.g. non-pretty-printed json data. Some editors work well with large files but simply die if there's a line with a million characters.
  - Elrac 10y ago
    Just for backup on the large lines thing: Many years ago, one compelling feature about Lugaru's emacs-family Epsilon (recently discussed here on HN) was the fact that you could quickly load _any_ file, with maximum sizes several times the available system memory, and completely regardless of text structure. You could load a fat binary, e.g. WORD.EXE, edit character strings in it, save it, and if you carefully avoided changing sizes and offsets, have a still-working .EXE program. This is of course a slightly off-the-wall use case for a text editor, but if you happen to need that kind of thing you'll be really grateful if you have an editor that can do it.
gotofritz 10y ago
There are a few annoying things about ST3 which aren't so on Atom - no engagement with the developers. For $70 I expect to be able to file bug reports and maybe some feature requests. Without being banned. - multi file search is ridiculously poor. I can't save search patterns, the long text box with all the file patterns is hard to navigate (on OS X if you put the cursor at the end it starts scrolling), but most of all the result pane doesn't stick as it used to. I have to search again every time I click on a file from the results then close it. - copy and paste is STILL buggy on OS X. Sometimes you paste a string and it puts it in the line above the one where you have your cursor. - package control is not included. It's just common sense - the scrollbars are invisible on OS X. I don't want a minimap, it used too much space and adds too much noise - I use BracketHighlighter. Every time I want to customise the highlight colour it's a royal pain in the neck because of ST3's crazy architecture I'd much rather use atom these days.
- dsego 10y ago
  1) And maybe a massage once in a while, am I right? 2) My only gripe is that it can block the UI. 3) Not experienced. 4) Would be nice, but not a deal-breaker. 5) That's how scrollbars work on macos. You can change it with "overlay_scroll_bars": "disabled". Minimap can also be disabled via View > Hide Minimap. 6) No idea. 7) Who is stopping you?
  - gotofritz 10y ago
    Expecting developers to allow you to report bug is hardly something that warrants idiotic sarcasm.
    - nekopa 10y ago
      How did you get banned? I saw a lot of bug reports and feature requests on the ST forum, there is even a whole sub board dedicated to feature requests which seems to be quite active.
      - gotofritz 10y ago
barpet 10y ago
I am an emacs person that converted from ST (on Windows/Linux) and TextMate but I have always preferred ST/Textmate over anything else available.
- tom4000 10y ago
  Me too. Started with some GUI editors like Text Mate and Gedit; came to ST3 (bought a license); tried Atom; got convinced to VIM and use Emacs with evil now.
ricardobeat 10y ago
The addition of Phantoms [1] is the killer feature in this release for me. This will allow embedding custom HTML [2] inline in the editor, which is something I've been dreaming of - the power of Atom's nice plugin UIs with no compromise in speed! [1] https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/api_reference.html#sublime.Phantom https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/api_reference.html#sublim... [2] https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html
jayflux 10y ago
The Official Sublime Rust package supports this update: https://github.com/rust-lang/sublime-rust/pull/87 https://github.com/rust-lang/sublime-rust/pull/87
makapuf 10y ago
I suspect still ST3 still being in Beta is a service to ST2 users, who paid it but for a relatively short time before first st3 betas and whose license key will be valid with ST3 betas and not ST3 once out. Not that I am in this case at all.
alexmorenodev 10y ago
I'm craving for transparent background.
TsomArp 10y ago
I'm an UltraEdit user. I have tried Sublime Text because of all the nice comments, but I don't see it. Can somebody that also uses or used to use UE tell me what I'm missing?
onetom 10y ago
Here comes a piece of history. I replied this to my Sublime Text 2 purchase confirmation email I got from Jon Skinner on 2011/08/30: > hi jon, > > my salary was reduced by 30% just yesterday, but when i woke up today, > they 1st thing i did was purchasing sublime. it's that fucking awesome! > i wish it would be open source, so people could learn from it... > but, hey, i doubt many open source developers could contribute quality > code to it.. :) > > if u could implement the elastic tab stop feature (which has some reference > implementation on the nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ site), then i > would be happy to pay another 60bucks for it. > actually, u could sell separate license for the version which has this > feature... > i know it would be quite elitist, but it worked well with the black macbooks > back then...
brightball 10y ago
Sublime is slowly making me end my hold out that Textmate will one day take over again.
nonbel 10y ago
If this issue with the SublimeREPL package could be resolved, it would be perfect: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27083505/sublime-text-3-python-repl-slow-print https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27083505/sublime-text-3-... Anyone have a guess as to why this happens? It causes me headaches using R as well.
ld00d 10y ago
My favorite new feature: > Settings now open in a new window, with the default and user settings side-by-side

323 points by tiagocorrea 10y ago

On Mac I use TextWrangler for quick editing and VS Code as the IDE. I never need to open super large files so after reading this discussion I tried to open a 177MB text file in TextWrangler and it opened quickly and was editable. Searching within the file was also super fast.

spdustin 10y ago

From the release notes [0]: > Minor improvements to file load times I didn't even realize there was room to squeeze out more performance here. Sublime Text is wicked-fast opening pretty much everything I throw at it. [0]: https://www.sublimetext.com/3 https://www.sublimetext.com/3

CJKinni 10y ago
I agree, but I'm also glad they're still working at it. Sublime Text is my go to text editor for files over 10MB, and it can get a little slow loading anything over 1GB. It's awesome to know that it'll be a little faster when I get into work tomorrow.
- Koshkin 10y ago
  Just curious, why would one want to open a 10MB (let alone a 1GB) file in a text editor? Isn't that something that could be better (that is, more efficiently) handled by the likes of grep, head, tail, sed or awk? It's like issuing a database query that returns a million rows when a more specific query would have been a better choice because it would result in substantially less data to look at.
  - wbond 10y ago
    I used the SQLite source file when working on the C syntax rewrite a few months ago. It is almost 7MB. Being able to jump to the definition of a function, even when contained in a source file that is 200k lines can be handy.
  - GuiA 10y ago
    The answer is going to sound terribly boring, but as someone who frequently deals with very large files of structured text: sometimes you just want to look at your data and quickly jump around. I want direct manipulation, not a data querying/manipulation DSL (whether that's grep, sed, SQL, etc)
    - SiVal 10y ago
      I wholeheartedly agree that it doesn't sound like much, but sometimes all I'm doing is applying general, human intelligence to the very vague question of, Is there anything in here that I'm not aware of but should be? That's not an easy query to write in grep or SQL, but it's a common query that often turns out to be important, so I handle it the old-fashioned way: I look it over with human eyes and see what I find.
    - Elrac 10y ago
      Here's a "me too!" I spend a lot of time less-ing around in log files, but then every once in a while I need or at least want the full power of an editor to act on those files. Be it converting one kind of line delimiter to another so I can visually understand the structure of strange messages, excerpting blocks of the log to files,... lots of things I can do easily in vim (and probably could do in ST if I had ST in my environment) and not nearly so convenient otherwise.
  - DigitalJack 10y ago
    I don't know why you are being downvoted, it seems like a legitimate question to me. I routinely edit text files that are hundreds of megabytes, and sometimes over a gig. These are usually transcripts from chip simulations, where I'm tracking down where something went wrong. Most often I do this in emacs, and sometimes vim. They both do fine with it, although emacs used to warn about files over a certain limit. It has always done fine with them in practice.
    - DavidWanjiru 10y ago
      Lately, HN down-votes seem to me have a very "boo boy" thing about them. There's nothing in the original comment that would warrant a down-vote.
      - porker 10y ago
        Upvoting you for that. I've noticed a change too; it's reduced the amount I comment.
  - Bluestrike2 10y ago
    Oh man, you should take a look at NIH gene data someday if you really want to blow a gasket. Pretty much everything is over 1GB, and there are many, many files to work with when you're really only looking for a very specific subset of the data. I remember helping a friend of mine who's a grad student with them for his research.
  - markatkinson 10y ago
    I found myself doing this more and more often as a data provider that most of our clients used started to drop the ball with the data they were distributing. Including things like extra comma's in descriptions, letters in monetary figures etc. I actually found Notepad++ the fastest for opening CSV's, XML etc. Nipped this in the bud quickly and made a small windows GUI that scans source files for common issues.
  - PeterisP 10y ago
    For starters, if you'd want to eyeball a particular location in e.g. a 100mb data file that's not plain text but common text-ish formats such as xml or json, then you'd want prettyprint/reindent and syntax highlight; and using search/replace regex interactively gives much better immediate feedback about results (i.e. if this is what you wanted) than doing the same with grep/sed.
  - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
    In my case: logs, when I'm troubleshooting something, but not sure what I'm looking for :)
- stinos 10y ago
  Not on Windows unfortunately: large files are still painstakingly slow, I think slower than any other editor out there (including crap like notepad). No idea what code ST on Windows uses to load files, but it's obviously not the proper way to do it.
- pwenzel 10y ago
  For me, the only thing that remains slow to open in Sublime Text are giant SQL dumps. This is super rare, and is easily remedied with TextWrangler, which opens huge files in milliseconds, with syntax highlighting. That said, I will happily shell out for any future paid releases. I live in this editor. It's my primary code editing and note-taking tool.
- kaushalmodi 10y ago
  I have to occasionally play with 300MB+ log files and emacs handles those smoothly. So I can't imagine just 10MB begin a bottleneck for any editor :)

bcherny 10y ago

Does Sublime still exist? With all the hubub about VSCode and Atom, I've sort of forgotten about it.

zzleeper 10y ago
And it's still improving quite a bit (syntax definition files seem much better than on the atom editors, etc)
DigitalSea 10y ago
>Does Sublime still exist? Did you even click the link? This is an update changelog... Having said that, while competitors have popped up like Visual Studio Code which is pretty darn good, Sublime was one of the first text editors that I used years ago when the landscape was primarily dominated by Dreamweaver and TextMate. It was a step-up from Notepad++ which many open source lovers used, but lacked the finesse that ST brought to the table. When it comes to opening large files, especially large SQL dumps >1gb, Sublime Text is still the king in my opinion. I still occasionally need to do a find and replace on a large file and nothing beats Sublime Text (except maybe command line editors like Vi/Vim, which I can't use). I primarily focus on front-end development nowadays, so I primarily use Webstorm, but if I need to write some Markdown, edit some PHP/Python or edit large files, Sublime is still my go-to. Such a shame people think you need to update something every day to keep using it, ST has been incredibly stable for years now. Even ST3 which was in beta for years has been quite stable.
- threeseed 10y ago
  > Did you even click the link? This is an update changelog... They haven't exactly been keeping to a regular update schedule. So not hard to blame people for wondering if it was abandoned or not.
  - robotresearcher 10y ago
    Also not unreasonable to expect people to take a glance at the article they are commenting on.

derefr 10y ago

> a menu entry to install Package Control If Sublime is going to acknowledge Package Control, why not just ship with it? I'm sure the Package Control folks would be glad to move their repo upstream.

skybrian 10y ago
Seems like that would make it harder to upgrade Package Control?
wbond 10y ago
I've been working for Jon since January. Part of the reason is allowing it to have a different release cadence, but also to not default to making outbound network connections without a user opting in.
- voltagex_ 10y ago
  Definitely appreciate that, but couldn't it be a click-through prompt before making a connection? VLC does something similar on first install.
connorshea 10y ago
They hired the guy developing Package Control and I believe they're working on integrating it into Sublime, just a matter of time.
amorphid 10y ago
I like Atom's built in package management. Less to think about.
- pawelgrzybek 10y ago
  You are comparing 30mb tiny text editor with 300mb Electon build. You have a nice package manager, but you are loosing performance. You have optional package manager and lightning fast amazing tiny text editor. Choice is yours.

connorshea 10y ago

I really, really wish it was open source. I understand why it isn't, but with its main competitors being Atom and VSCode, it's hard to warrant using a closed source text editor even if it's so much faster and I'm used to it.

overcast 10y ago
As far as I'm concerned, Atom isn't even in the running. It's clunky, and slow. VS Code is awesome, but is missing some crucial plugins that Sublime has. Namely proper SFTP support. The only one available is junk, and it regularly crashes the entire app with only attempting to sync a few hundred files.
eropple 10y ago
Why is it hard to "warrant" it? Sublime is a better editor for my purposes. It runs everywhere. I use it. Done.
mangeletti 10y ago
I've never been more impressed by an editor than I am by Sublime. Literally everything about the editor is excellent[1]. My rule of thumb is: If I'm on a server via SSH, it's Vim. Otherwise, it's Sublime. 1. Actually... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553584 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553584 (sorry if you're a robot and just got stuck in recursion)
- nitemice 10y ago
  If you really wanted, you may be able to eliminate Vim from your workflow altogether: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15958056/how-to-use-sublime-over-ssh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15958056/how-to-use-subli...
  - bpicolo 10y ago
    Only if you have a single, constant remote. I've used osx fuse + Sublime a lot. It's not perfect. If you change something on the remote through not-sublime, sublime doesn't pick up changes for a long time (rather, your OS doesnt, not Sublime's fault). That said, decent for the day to day. If you're hitting moving target servers, docker, etc, you still need to have some basic vim or emacs or nano knowledge.

pbnjay 10y ago

Whoa very nice new features! Now I need GoSublime to support them!

woodruffw 10y ago

Awesome! I'm especially liking the Phantoms API - there's a ton of potential there for richer plugins and graphical inlining. I've moved between maybe half a dozen editors over the past half-decade, but I always end up coming back to Sublime.

sagivo 10y ago

sublime is by far my favorite editor. fast and lots of plugins. specially if you work with big files. i sometimes need to work with files larger than 150MB and it takes few seconds to open. atom crushes and can't even open the files.

traduz 10y ago
Been using it for a long time and that's the main reason i do, so good at looking at those huge log files.
CameronBanga 10y ago
Agree. The number of times a year I need to open a a crazy large file in reality, is fairly small. But I love that when I do, my tool of choice works perfectly with these files and I don't need to bust out a specialty text editor.

wkirby 10y ago

Actually the only thing that keeps me from switching back to ST3 is Atoms first class support for `.gitignore` and excluding files from the quick open menu. I know there's a package that claims to update the file ignore pattern to match the open project, but it really doesn't work well at all.

drhayes9 10y ago
This is my exact issue! That's what keeps me coming back to Atom even though Sublime is much, much faster. The last package I saw tackle this required you to make a project -- which I just never do in Sublime.
- imjared 10y ago
  Creating a projectname.sublime-project is usually my first step when I start a new development project. In fact, I do it so much I have a text expander shortcut for it. Then I have a short bash alias `lime` that takes the place of `subl`: https://gist.github.com/imjared/db14e2c92df864ae048e1d2a94d08c0f https://gist.github.com/imjared/db14e2c92df864ae048e1d2a94d0... The benefit seems to be that it _isn't_ synced with my .gitignore so I never have to worry about accidentally committing a .env or similar. I can toggle files and folders on and off as I need to.
MatekCopatek 10y ago
I second that, along with .gitignore handling I also terribly miss having new and changed files (in git) highlighted in the sidebar, which Atom has out of the box. They have a lot of feature requests for that, since their sidebar API doesn't even allow package developers to add it, and just like your case, it's the only feature keeping me from going back.
teddyc 10y ago
Create a Sublime project. You can have project settings to ignore file and folder patterns. I set this up at the same time I create a .gitignore file for a repo. Whenever you re-open a project, it re-opens every tab you had when you closed the project, which is really nice. Even unsaved files are restored. https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/projects.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/projects.html

mangeletti 10y ago

I have one single complaint about Sublime Text: In order to truly clear your history (files open, last searches, etc.), I have to maintain a script with the following: find ~ -name *.sublime-workspace -delete rm ~/Library/Application\ Support/Sublime\ Text\ 3/Local/Session.sublime_session Other than that, see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553515 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12553515

slowmovintarget 10y ago
My complaint is actually not with ST3, but with Package Control. I have to maintain my user preferences in git because PC rewrites them and resets the theme every time it updates. (I run the Material Design theme)
- dman 10y ago
  This might possibly be fixed by using PackageResourceViewer. It allows you to edit the package files for themes and have your changes stick. (I use this to change the font size for the tree on the left in the theme file, and I only had to make this change once).
- dabernathy89 10y ago
  Wow, this isn't just me! I got tired of it and just switched back to the default theme.
- wbond 10y ago
  When you say "reset" do you mean it doesn't re-enable the Material theme once the upgrade is complete?
  - slowmovintarget 10y ago
    Yes. This used to be a problem every time. In the last month or so this has happened to me only twice.
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dman 10y ago

One minor feature request - can you please simplify the setting of font size for the tree browser and for the menu entries. (I know that tree browser font size can be set by the theme, but it is a bit non trivial using PackageResourceViewer to patch theme files to do this). I still havent found a way to change the font size of the menu entries.

gravypod 10y ago

I wish the Sublime Text people open sourced their code. I'd buy it from them in that event and I'd finally have a text editor to recommend. Atom, VS code, and anything else is completely blown out of the water by ST. There's a reason it's still around and it's because ST is the only thing that can even think of doing what sublime text can do. Good work to the people behind it, it's an amazing feat no doubt. Just please consider making it free software for all of us who care about that just a bit. Amazing work none the less.

zoilism 10y ago
its' pretty much free, but for the occasional alert
- baldfat 10y ago
  $70 doesn't seem free. Personally VS Code on Linux has been rock solid for me.
  - zoilism 10y ago
    There is a paid version and a free version. I meant that the free version works fine, except you get an occasional alert.
    - tux1968 10y ago
      There doesn't seem to be a free version at all. There is an evaluation version which is meant to tide you over until you decide to buy or abandon ST. It wouldn't be right to promote such an arrangement as a "free version".
      - enraged_camel 10y ago
        The evaluation version is free and it works forever. If the developers were not OK with that, they would put a time limit on it. Since they haven't, that means they're OK with it.

dikaiosune 10y ago

Very cool to see a screenshot from servo's codebase.

kibwen 10y ago
Clearly this means that the Sublime Text author is envious of Atom, and intends to rip out the native GUI for some browser-based goodness. :P

modeless 10y ago

I'm surprised so many people here are using Sublime to edit >100 MB files. Yes, it handles them (as long as the lines aren't too long), but it always has to load the entire file before displaying the first line. Aren't there some editors that don't have to do that? On a related note, large files are often binary. I appreciate that Sublime can display binary files but it's pretty bare bones, and there's no editing support. I'd love to see what Sublime HQ could do if they worked on binary editing support for a couple of milestones. For example, the ability to locate and edit strings in binary files would be cool, as would a basic hex editor.

watmough 10y ago
Yes, I would spring the $70 in a moment for this ability. Of course I may do anyway. I like to support small software producers.
fake-name 10y ago
There's a pretty decent hex editor plugin for sublime: https://github.com/facelessuser/HexViewer https://github.com/facelessuser/HexViewer I've used it, and it's quite nice, but I don't know how it'd handle large files. Maybe take a look?
PavlovsCat 10y ago
> it always has to load the entire file before displaying the first line. Aren't there some editors that don't have to do that? http://www.ultraedit.com/ http://www.ultraedit.com/ ST is neat. UE is heavy duty.
- wodenokoto 10y ago
  Funny this doesn't come up more often when discussing St, as it is about the same price and an old name. How is it to use?
  - PavlovsCat 10y ago
    > How is it to use? Depends on how you configure it, it can be a lot of things. The UI is pretty amazing, but I don't have the knowledge or time to do it justice in the least, sorry :) To be perfectly honest, the first time I finally tried it after hearing so much about it for so long, Sublime Text kind of disappointed me. You can't even print out of the box -- waitwhat? It does other cool things, true, and there is room for more than one text editor, text files are awesome that way. But still, I felt a bit like when everybody was going nuts over Firefox because they didn't know about Opera. I love Mozilla (a lot) and harbour no ill will towards Sublime Text, but god damnit, software isn't as tight as it used to be. I don't know anything about anything and even I can tell.

niahmiah 10y ago

nobody cares. Atom ftw

Manishearth 10y ago

> Also new in 3124 is Show Definition, which will show where a symbol is defined when hovering over it with the mouse. This makes use of the new on_hover API, and can be controlled via the show_definitions setting: Is this just an API hook which a plugin can add a definition resolver to, or does this automatically find definitions for all builtin languages? If the latter, this is super cool! If the former, I'm going to try and update https://packagecontrol.io/packages/YcmdCompletion https://packagecontrol.io/packages/YcmdCompletion for this ----- Edit: omg works out of the box. Seems to be a simple grep-based thing (so it lists all definitions of the same name), but that's still quite useful!

sunnyps 10y ago
It's similar to Goto Definition (F12). It's based on parsing according to the syntax definition (which only does line by line contextual parsing) so kinda like ctags. In practice it works better than the painfully slow "smart" and often non-existent* symbol navigation in IDEs (although QtCreator is very good in this regard). * for large projects
- skrebbel 10y ago
  I suspect like you only used C++ IDEs? It's pretty much instantaneous (and always correct) in common IDEs for languages like C#, Java and TypeScript.
  - Manishearth 10y ago
    YCMD's racer based GoTo for Rust is pretty fast too, despite Rust having a complex type system.
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supergetting 10y ago

When I first started using Sublime, I disliked the occasional popups, and thought I'd just keep using it without paying $70 for a text editor?!?! But I HAD to buy the thing! Not because I wanted to avoid the annoying popup, but because of everything we know about Sublime today; performance, simplicity and intuitiveness of the UI, packaging system, etc. The article mentions that they're coming out of beta in the near future! nice! and I just noticed they're already mentioning sublime text version 4 (under sales FAQ page).

codepunker 10y ago

Amazing! ST is the only editor I considered good enough to pay for and I can see it's getting even better!

statictype 10y ago

The only thing I really want from Sublime (or VSCode) is an API that lets me display an output panel/sidebar with an html engine embedded in it. Atom provides this - it also provides arbitrary html in the editor itself which is cool but also what makes it slow. I just want it for the supplementary panels that show build outputs, documentation or other contextual information. That's enough to let me customize it for our team's usage.

octref 10y ago
We are working on it. [0] [0]: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/12163 https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/12163
ricardobeat 10y ago
From the release notes, this is one of the new features: https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html

guessmyname 10y ago

> With these latest changes, Sublime Text 3 is almost > ready to graduate out of beta, and into a 3.0 version. Wow, Finally! I have been using ST3 for several years (wow, years) and always wondered what is keeping the developer from labeling that version as stable. From all the issues reported here [1] I have never encountered one while using the editor for pretty much all my work. Those $70 are definitely worth every penny. Sometimes I cringe from videos featuring ST while using a non-registered license, this week it happened with a course from Google engineers via Udacity, Google engineers!!! As if they don't have miserable $70 to buy a license, I assumed they were in a rush and didn't have time to set the license which I hope they bought. Anyway, thanks for all the hard work Jon, and recently Will. [1] https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues

mastazi 10y ago
> Those $70 are definitely worth every penny. Same here, buying an ST license is probably the single best SW-related purchase that I've ever done. ST3 works so flawlessly, it's just ironic that it's still technically a beta version. It is actually much less buggy than many "final version" competitors ;-) On a side note, it is notable how, despite being a closed-source program, ST was able to generate a large ecosystem of open-source plugins; that is not something that happens every day (Jeskola Buzz comes to mind as a similar case: also closed source and with a large open-source plugins ecosystem, but I'm not sure how many people on HN are familiar with tracker-style music software, LOL).
- jacobolus 10y ago
  ST bootstrapped its ecosystem by directly and shamelessly cloning every one of its original features from the TextMate editor, and just copy/pasting its entire ecosystem, without contributing anything back. For years there was no special support for actually working on custom features from within Sublime Text, so if you wanted to create new language grammars or syntax highlighting modes etc. you needed to do it from within TextMate. Sublime users would come to the TextMate IRC channel to complain about particular language bundle features that were buggy in the not-quite-compatible environment of ST, and ask TM users to fix it for them. Kind of comical really. Even still, TextMate is a substantially more carefully designed tool. My impression is that the Sublime programmer didn’t really understand the underlying philosophy behind many of the features he cloned, and kind of screwed up a bunch of the subtler details. (This isn’t really surprising; I’d say it pretty much always happens when anyone just copies something that exists; they seldom perfectly understand the context or ideas of the original creator, so the copy is always at least a bit degraded/distorted, with less clarity of vision.) Sublime does have the advantage of working on more platforms though.

jeffijoe 10y ago

Been using Sublime Text 3 for years (and I do have a license), and been trying out Atom/VSCode lately. Atom can get real slow, but I feel like the extensions for Atom are of higher quality (linters, TypeScript integration). I think it might have something to do with HTML/CSS/JS vs Python for plugin development.

muktabh 10y ago

Thanks for the hard work sublime text team for making programming so enjoyable. I already find ST3 so flawless that to think it still can be improved is beyond me. Once again, great going.

realraghavgupta 10y ago

Atom is really good to go, but after using it and some others, I am back to Sublime Text. They are still working on version 3.0 but the beta is also so stable.

0xmohit 10y ago

100% CPU since Build 3124 [0]. [0] https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1387 https://github.com/SublimeTextIssues/Core/issues/1387

Egidius 10y ago
same here :-/
- Egidius 10y ago
  The CPU load was only for a short period. When ST3 indexed my project (which is quite large) everything was fine again
wbond 10y ago
Please see https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/high-cpu-usage-in-beta-3124/23060 https://forum.sublimetext.com/t/high-cpu-usage-in-beta-3124/...

martanne 10y ago

A number of people expressed the need to edit large files. For the development of my own editor[0] I would be interested to know what kind of usage patterns most often occur. What are the most important operations? Do you search for some (regex) pattern? Do you go to some specific line n? Do you copy/paste large portions of the file around? Do you often edit binary files? If so what types and what kind of changes do you perform? [0] https://github.com/martanne/vis https://github.com/martanne/vis

TickleSteve 10y ago
for me, regex find and find-in-files is very important for analysing large codebases. Sublime is close to ideal for this (for me). (Multi-line regexes also very useful). Don't tend to copy large portions of files around, but goto-line is used fairly often and some kind of programatic interface (REPL-style) would also be good, similar to the Sublime console. Plugins are also important for the long-tail features that are very niche. ...but... speed and lightness is also very important.... so don't use JS/CSS/HTML... please.
PeterisP 10y ago
1) Going to a specific location (e.g. a location that shows up in some error log about processing that data file) and eyeballing it. Being able to go to a specific location is sometimes important (e.g. row 12873, character 233). Syntax highlight is important, it sometimes makes obvious something that's subtly malformed. Syntax highlight that doesn't take an eternity for large files is a hard issue. 2) regex search/replace - interactive grep/sed. 3) Very large edits - e.g., find a specific location and remove all data entries before that so that the problematic entry now would be the first one; essentially cutting away half of a very large file. 4) Do note that you might have very, very large lines - it's not that uncommon to have the whole file in a single line, e.g. non-pretty-printed json data. Some editors work well with large files but simply die if there's a line with a million characters.
- Elrac 10y ago
  Just for backup on the large lines thing: Many years ago, one compelling feature about Lugaru's emacs-family Epsilon (recently discussed here on HN) was the fact that you could quickly load _any_ file, with maximum sizes several times the available system memory, and completely regardless of text structure. You could load a fat binary, e.g. WORD.EXE, edit character strings in it, save it, and if you carefully avoided changing sizes and offsets, have a still-working .EXE program. This is of course a slightly off-the-wall use case for a text editor, but if you happen to need that kind of thing you'll be really grateful if you have an editor that can do it.

gotofritz 10y ago

There are a few annoying things about ST3 which aren't so on Atom - no engagement with the developers. For $70 I expect to be able to file bug reports and maybe some feature requests. Without being banned. - multi file search is ridiculously poor. I can't save search patterns, the long text box with all the file patterns is hard to navigate (on OS X if you put the cursor at the end it starts scrolling), but most of all the result pane doesn't stick as it used to. I have to search again every time I click on a file from the results then close it. - copy and paste is STILL buggy on OS X. Sometimes you paste a string and it puts it in the line above the one where you have your cursor. - package control is not included. It's just common sense - the scrollbars are invisible on OS X. I don't want a minimap, it used too much space and adds too much noise - I use BracketHighlighter. Every time I want to customise the highlight colour it's a royal pain in the neck because of ST3's crazy architecture I'd much rather use atom these days.

dsego 10y ago
1) And maybe a massage once in a while, am I right? 2) My only gripe is that it can block the UI. 3) Not experienced. 4) Would be nice, but not a deal-breaker. 5) That's how scrollbars work on macos. You can change it with "overlay_scroll_bars": "disabled". Minimap can also be disabled via View > Hide Minimap. 6) No idea. 7) Who is stopping you?
- gotofritz 10y ago
  Expecting developers to allow you to report bug is hardly something that warrants idiotic sarcasm.
  - nekopa 10y ago
    How did you get banned? I saw a lot of bug reports and feature requests on the ST forum, there is even a whole sub board dedicated to feature requests which seems to be quite active.
    - gotofritz 10y ago

barpet 10y ago

I am an emacs person that converted from ST (on Windows/Linux) and TextMate but I have always preferred ST/Textmate over anything else available.

tom4000 10y ago
Me too. Started with some GUI editors like Text Mate and Gedit; came to ST3 (bought a license); tried Atom; got convinced to VIM and use Emacs with evil now.

ricardobeat 10y ago

The addition of Phantoms [1] is the killer feature in this release for me. This will allow embedding custom HTML [2] inline in the editor, which is something I've been dreaming of - the power of Atom's nice plugin UIs with no compromise in speed! [1] https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/api_reference.html#sublime.Phantom https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/api_reference.html#sublim... [2] https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html https://www.sublimetext.com/docs/3/minihtml.html

jayflux 10y ago

The Official Sublime Rust package supports this update: https://github.com/rust-lang/sublime-rust/pull/87 https://github.com/rust-lang/sublime-rust/pull/87

makapuf 10y ago

I suspect still ST3 still being in Beta is a service to ST2 users, who paid it but for a relatively short time before first st3 betas and whose license key will be valid with ST3 betas and not ST3 once out. Not that I am in this case at all.

alexmorenodev 10y ago

I'm craving for transparent background.

TsomArp 10y ago

I'm an UltraEdit user. I have tried Sublime Text because of all the nice comments, but I don't see it. Can somebody that also uses or used to use UE tell me what I'm missing?

onetom 10y ago

Here comes a piece of history. I replied this to my Sublime Text 2 purchase confirmation email I got from Jon Skinner on 2011/08/30: > hi jon, > > my salary was reduced by 30% just yesterday, but when i woke up today, > they 1st thing i did was purchasing sublime. it's that fucking awesome! > i wish it would be open source, so people could learn from it... > but, hey, i doubt many open source developers could contribute quality > code to it.. :) > > if u could implement the elastic tab stop feature (which has some reference > implementation on the nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ site), then i > would be happy to pay another 60bucks for it. > actually, u could sell separate license for the version which has this > feature... > i know it would be quite elitist, but it worked well with the black macbooks > back then...

brightball 10y ago

Sublime is slowly making me end my hold out that Textmate will one day take over again.

nonbel 10y ago

If this issue with the SublimeREPL package could be resolved, it would be perfect: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27083505/sublime-text-3-python-repl-slow-print https://stackoverflow.com/questions/27083505/sublime-text-3-... Anyone have a guess as to why this happens? It causes me headaches using R as well.

ld00d 10y ago

My favorite new feature: > Settings now open in a new window, with the default and user settings side-by-side