> deny the substantial character of reality It's a popular belief but neither Zen nor Theravadan Buddhism makes any claims about "Reality". They only talk abou

> deny the substantial character of reality It's a popular belief but neither Zen nor Theravadan Buddhism makes any claims about "Reality". They only talk about the lack of a substantial self. (After all, the only "reality", so to speak, from a Buddhist perspective is the reality of dukkha or suffering. The question of the reality of the material world is of no importance.)