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> How is this harder than the current procedure which requires users to sideload custom RAID drivers from USB that support the RAID at install time? It's not h

> How is this harder than the current procedure which requires users to sideload custom RAID drivers from USB that support the RAID at install time? It's not harder: It degrades the overall experience while using the laptop (battery, temperature, performance). > I can imagine the support calls coming from THAT. > Oh, and this is the Windows experience that is affected. True, but I'm sure they plan on make money out of these calls. People will be more inclined to pay when "they" screwed up Windows than because "this piece of crap doesn't work well, even with Windows freshly installed". Again, this is a guess of Lenovo's thinking. > When I think of risk associated with setting a BIOS to AHCI mode? I don't think of nuclear explosions... I mean flashing a non-supported BIOS :)

Hydraulix989 10y ago
"It's not harder: It degrades the overall experience while using the laptop (battery, temperature, performance)." Except these are baseless claims that haven't been supported by any data yet; in fact, one user that posted on the Lenovo Community forums compared the "performance" of single-drive RAID (oxymoron) vs. AHCI for NVMe SSDs, and it's more or less the same. "I mean flashing a non-supported BIOS :)" Right, so do I -- currently, users have been attaching DIY chip clips and flashing a user-modded hacked BIOS themselves (much like modding Playstation game consoles to break the region locking back in the 90s). Wouldn't it be better for these users to flash a Lenovo-supported BIOS instead? I guess that's what factors into your "bottom line" calculations -- the overhead of uploading a 30 second fix from engineering. EDIT: I really should have realized I have been getting trolled a bit sooner LOL
- NetStrikeForce 10y ago
  You're not getting trolled. No one is against you, you just don't understand business and the associated costs of things that might look little to you. On the technical side you're right, we agree. On the business side things do not work like that. For the last time: This was a terrible decision, but the best course of action for Lenovo might not be as simple as it looks for a technical standpoint. And please, keep it civil. There's no need to call me troll just because you don't understand business.
  - dang 10y ago
    > And please, keep it civil. There's no need to call me troll just because you don't understand business. I agree that that wasn't civil, but there's nothing civil about this side-swipe either. Please don't do that.
    - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
      You are 100% right, my apologies to Hydraulix989, HN users that had to read that and yourself.
      - Hydraulix989 10y ago
        No worries, it takes a lot to offend me! :-)

Hydraulix989 10y ago

"It's not harder: It degrades the overall experience while using the laptop (battery, temperature, performance)." Except these are baseless claims that haven't been supported by any data yet; in fact, one user that posted on the Lenovo Community forums compared the "performance" of single-drive RAID (oxymoron) vs. AHCI for NVMe SSDs, and it's more or less the same. "I mean flashing a non-supported BIOS :)" Right, so do I -- currently, users have been attaching DIY chip clips and flashing a user-modded hacked BIOS themselves (much like modding Playstation game consoles to break the region locking back in the 90s). Wouldn't it be better for these users to flash a Lenovo-supported BIOS instead? I guess that's what factors into your "bottom line" calculations -- the overhead of uploading a 30 second fix from engineering. EDIT: I really should have realized I have been getting trolled a bit sooner LOL

NetStrikeForce 10y ago
You're not getting trolled. No one is against you, you just don't understand business and the associated costs of things that might look little to you. On the technical side you're right, we agree. On the business side things do not work like that. For the last time: This was a terrible decision, but the best course of action for Lenovo might not be as simple as it looks for a technical standpoint. And please, keep it civil. There's no need to call me troll just because you don't understand business.
- dang 10y ago
  > And please, keep it civil. There's no need to call me troll just because you don't understand business. I agree that that wasn't civil, but there's nothing civil about this side-swipe either. Please don't do that.
  - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
    You are 100% right, my apologies to Hydraulix989, HN users that had to read that and yourself.
    - Hydraulix989 10y ago
      No worries, it takes a lot to offend me! :-)