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I don't think anyone is saying they HAVE to support linux. Think of it like freedom of speech. Lenovo is free to put themselves out of business however they wan

I don't think anyone is saying they HAVE to support linux. Think of it like freedom of speech. Lenovo is free to put themselves out of business however they want and their consumers are free to call it a big ass mistake and call them idiots and not buy their blackbox crap.

raesene9 10y ago
Abosutely people are totally free not to buy their stuff. But that does not make it a conspiracy by MS or Lenovo. it is a commercial decision. companies get to make those consumers then get to choose whether to buy their stuff but it's not a conspiracy.
- parenthephobia 10y ago
  What conceivable commercial purpose of Lenovo is served by making it difficult for people to install operating systems other than Windows 10 on their laptops?
  - raesene9 10y ago
    that's easy, they don't spend money on developing drivers for Linux. Every OS they support costs money in developer time. It's a commercial trade-off what Operating Systems to support. Put it this way, do you see lenovo or Dell or HP developing drivers for OpenBSD? there's no commercial ROI on that, so they don't In this case it would appear that Lenovo don't think there's a commercial reason to help out with Linux drivers.
    - vacri 10y ago
      I'm a bit puzzled as to how a low-karma user with no submissions is able to post so many comments, when there's supposed to be a timed comment limit to prevent exactly this sort of repetitive go-nowhere discussion.
      - raesene9 10y ago
        timed comments seem to increase with thread depth. Apologies if you think things are circular, I've just been responding where people replied to me with points that I felt warranted a response, which seemed like a reasonable thing to do in a discussion thread.
  - pieter_mj 10y ago
    I would surmise the signature edition contract with Microsoft probably requires Lenovo to have their laptops at optimal performance. Suboptimal performance must not occur, hence the blocking of other non-RAID options. It would be interesting to see how this is achieved in other pc's in the signature edition range : https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600 https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categor...
- npiazza83 10y ago
  It may not be a conspiracy but it is certainly newsworthy. I've got a son who is getting to be about the age where a young man is ready for his spirit journey and will be sent to his room with an old laptop, his father's slackware disks, and a static IP and he will not be let out until www.youreamannow.com reads, "please bring me snacks." I would hate to send him unprepared into the wild with a Lenovo.
  - raesene9 10y ago
    Slackware, you're being kind there, surely http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ is the only way to experience your first linux install (although it's still a bit easy seeing as how people can use flash drives rather than Floppy disks for the install)
    - npiazza83 10y ago
      I admit I spoil the boy... Perhaps he is ready...
- SahAssar 10y ago
  Seems to me like they are well within their rights to do this (in at least some markets), but that when asked about it they should be able to stand by that decision and say why.

raesene9 10y ago

Abosutely people are totally free not to buy their stuff. But that does not make it a conspiracy by MS or Lenovo. it is a commercial decision. companies get to make those consumers then get to choose whether to buy their stuff but it's not a conspiracy.

parenthephobia 10y ago
What conceivable commercial purpose of Lenovo is served by making it difficult for people to install operating systems other than Windows 10 on their laptops?
- raesene9 10y ago
  that's easy, they don't spend money on developing drivers for Linux. Every OS they support costs money in developer time. It's a commercial trade-off what Operating Systems to support. Put it this way, do you see lenovo or Dell or HP developing drivers for OpenBSD? there's no commercial ROI on that, so they don't In this case it would appear that Lenovo don't think there's a commercial reason to help out with Linux drivers.
  - vacri 10y ago
    I'm a bit puzzled as to how a low-karma user with no submissions is able to post so many comments, when there's supposed to be a timed comment limit to prevent exactly this sort of repetitive go-nowhere discussion.
    - raesene9 10y ago
      timed comments seem to increase with thread depth. Apologies if you think things are circular, I've just been responding where people replied to me with points that I felt warranted a response, which seemed like a reasonable thing to do in a discussion thread.
- pieter_mj 10y ago
  I would surmise the signature edition contract with Microsoft probably requires Lenovo to have their laptops at optimal performance. Suboptimal performance must not occur, hence the blocking of other non-RAID options. It would be interesting to see how this is achieved in other pc's in the signature edition range : https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categoryID.69916600 https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/cat/categor...
npiazza83 10y ago
It may not be a conspiracy but it is certainly newsworthy. I've got a son who is getting to be about the age where a young man is ready for his spirit journey and will be sent to his room with an old laptop, his father's slackware disks, and a static IP and he will not be let out until www.youreamannow.com reads, "please bring me snacks." I would hate to send him unprepared into the wild with a Lenovo.
- raesene9 10y ago
  Slackware, you're being kind there, surely http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ is the only way to experience your first linux install (although it's still a bit easy seeing as how people can use flash drives rather than Floppy disks for the install)
  - npiazza83 10y ago
    I admit I spoil the boy... Perhaps he is ready...
SahAssar 10y ago
Seems to me like they are well within their rights to do this (in at least some markets), but that when asked about it they should be able to stand by that decision and say why.