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What is crazy to me is that Lenovo is usually the brand that people recommend for Linux laptops. They are shooting themselves in the foot here. They may think t

by rburhum 10y ago

What is crazy to me is that Lenovo is usually the brand that people recommend for Linux laptops. They are shooting themselves in the foot here. They may think that the number of people on Linux is too small, but I bet it is bigger than they think. It is just that there is no easy way to accurately census the amount of Linux users on their HW.

captainmuon 10y ago
I used to recommend Lenovo (and before that, IBM) unconditionally for both Windows and Linux use. We called them the "Volvo of computers" because of their longevity, their performance, and their repairability. Now I'm writing this on a Yoga Pro 2, which is nice in principle, but it's slowly starting to get wobbly, screws are falling out, the color is peeling off the keys, and I can't use Linux because the color yellow is replaced with fricking MUSTARD if you don't load a specific Windows only driver. I actually poked a bit around in the drivers, and Lenovo fixes the problem by sending a few bytes to the Embedded Controller (a microcontroller on the motherboard). Lenovo doesn't give out the neccessary information, but I could reverse engineer it by kernel-debugging Windows. But the only way to do that on this Laptop would be via a special crossover USB3 debugger cable, which is out of sale. Before I soldered my own, I just gave up, and am now using Windows... My next PC is going to be an Asus or a Dell (who would have thought a few years ago...).
- ocdtrekkie 10y ago
  I have heard nothing but rave reviews for the XPS laptops which come officially supported with Ubuntu out of the box.
- rburhum 10y ago
  oh wow. That sounds horrible. I am sorry man!
wpietri 10y ago
I was thinking that too. I write this on a Lenovo Thinkpad, and was just looking at buying a new machine from them. I've been using Thinkpads for more than decade. I guess if they want me to look elsewhere, I'm willing. Anybody have recommendations?

by rburhum 10y ago

captainmuon 10y ago

I used to recommend Lenovo (and before that, IBM) unconditionally for both Windows and Linux use. We called them the "Volvo of computers" because of their longevity, their performance, and their repairability. Now I'm writing this on a Yoga Pro 2, which is nice in principle, but it's slowly starting to get wobbly, screws are falling out, the color is peeling off the keys, and I can't use Linux because the color yellow is replaced with fricking MUSTARD if you don't load a specific Windows only driver. I actually poked a bit around in the drivers, and Lenovo fixes the problem by sending a few bytes to the Embedded Controller (a microcontroller on the motherboard). Lenovo doesn't give out the neccessary information, but I could reverse engineer it by kernel-debugging Windows. But the only way to do that on this Laptop would be via a special crossover USB3 debugger cable, which is out of sale. Before I soldered my own, I just gave up, and am now using Windows... My next PC is going to be an Asus or a Dell (who would have thought a few years ago...).

ocdtrekkie 10y ago
I have heard nothing but rave reviews for the XPS laptops which come officially supported with Ubuntu out of the box.
rburhum 10y ago
oh wow. That sounds horrible. I am sorry man!

wpietri 10y ago

I was thinking that too. I write this on a Lenovo Thinkpad, and was just looking at buying a new machine from them. I've been using Thinkpads for more than decade. I guess if they want me to look elsewhere, I'm willing. Anybody have recommendations?