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Why does some random organization get to decide whether or not people are a thing? It'd be one thing if it was the government, but this is like saying that no o
by chris_7 10y ago
Why does some random organization get to decide whether or not people are a thing? It'd be one thing if it was the government, but this is like saying that no one can be a "soccer player" unless the USSF says so.
- lfowles 10y agoSoccer players aren't responsible for designing walkways that won't catastrophically collapse when loaded. Also, not everyone in an engineering type role is a PE. There are some circumstances where the PE double/triple checks work done and signs off on it, putting their license (and livelihood) on the line if the work is shoddy.
- chris_7 10y agoI have absolutely no problem with a non-government organization claiming authority over something like "ABET-Certified® Engineer". I have a giant problem with a non-government organization claiming authority over the generic English word "engineer".
- lfowles 10y agoIn the US it's more that the government claims authority over the phrase Professional Engineer [0], but ABET accredited programs feed into the FE exams which feed into the PE exams which are required to be licensed by the government. Little bit messier than either GP or you implied. [0] and probably also offering "engineering" services but I'm not sure of the extent there
- antod 10y agoYep structural engineering design in most countries doesn't need to be done by a registered professional engineer - just signed off by one. A lot of offices will have graduate/junior engineers that are not registered yet (but often working towards it) doing a lot of the donkey work. But they aren't responsible for it - the registered engineer who signs off on their work is.
- clifanatic 10y ago> this is like saying that no one can be a "soccer player" unless the USSF says so No, it's like professional soccer teams saying "I won't hire anybody who the USSF didn't say is a 'soccer player' because they have a good track record of establishing credentials and I trust their judgment".
- chris_7 10y agoThat seems orthogonal. The issue is ownership of language, not what certifications are required for a specific role at a company.