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The Photos upgrade for "moments" is quite nice, assuming you use Photos to store your photos. The storage upgrade where they can remove forgotten debris files

by jws 10y ago

The Photos upgrade for "moments" is quite nice, assuming you use Photos to store your photos. The storage upgrade where they can remove forgotten debris files and then migrate your unused files to the cloud is great for most people. I realize most HN readers have already drawn their saber and are 2/3rds over the gunwale at my suggestion that a computer make a decision about the disposition of a file, but this one feature is going to reduce my "friends and family tech support debt" by about 75%. A couple of clicks and I can fix their full computer. In the process of that I have quietly gotten them to backup their documents to the cloud so when I get the "my computer won't turn on" call I don't have to spend hours extracting and recovering their hard drive because they NEVER backup. Thanks to "apps", I can finally convince people that paying $1.99/mo for cloud storage isn't some evil plan to loot the world economy. People are used to small payments for computer services.

CJefferson 10y ago
The 'migrate to the cloud' is no good for backups -- it doesn't put files in the cloud which you actually use regularly!
- matt4077 10y ago
  I'm pretty sure it does. It just doesn't replace the local copy with a reference to the cloud version. Otherwise it could't synchronize between computers.
- mhurron 10y ago
  No sync service is good for backing up. Delete it locally and it's deleted remotely, same with making edits to a file.
  - toomuchtodo 10y ago
    Dropbox. I disable syncing for certain files, and its only stored in Dropbox. I need access again without using a web browser? I turn on syncing for that folder again and the files are synced back locally within a few seconds to minutes. I priced out getting an external SSD drive ($300 for 1TB). Its cheaper for me to just buy a year of Dropbox at a time (1TB @ $100/year if paid annually). https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/113 https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/113
    - totalrobe 10y ago
      Why would you compare the cost of an SSD in this case? You can get a good 1TB HDD for $50.
      - toomuchtodo 10y ago
        A mechanical drive is more likely to fail if exposed to shock or magnetic fields; unless its safely encased in a rack in a datacenter, its not an acceptable form of data storage.
        michaelmrose 10y ago
        Citation needed. You don't need for the drive to never ever go bad you just need for primary and backup not to fail in the time window required to replace the drive. Most of planet earth relies primarily on magnetic storage including people outside the data center.
        toomuchtodo 10y ago
        I need citations that mechanical drives will fail from shock or magnetic fields? I'm not going to waste my time googling references for that. > Most of planet earth relies primarily on magnetic storage including people outside the data center. Right. And I'm arguing SSDs are sturdier in that regard when not safe in a chassis somewhere. SSDs can withstand higher shock forces, have no glass platters or mechanical arms that can contact each other, and are not affected by magnetic fields.
        Tiksi 10y ago
        It takes quite a bit of shock force [1] and a pretty insane magnetic field [2] to damage rust. Also you could buy 2 6tb hdds [3] for the price of that single ssd and mirror them for another level of redundancy, so in my book they come out way ahead of ssds and cloud storage for backup/archival purposes. 1: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a-sturdy-companion,758-2.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a-sturdy-companion,758-2... 2: http://superuser.com/questions/568336/what-is-the-tolerable-magnetic-field-in-tesla-for-a-hard-disk http://superuser.com/questions/568336/what-is-the-tolerable-... 3: https://smile.amazon.com/Marshal-7200RPM-Internal-MAL36000NS-T72-Especia%EF%BD%8Cly/dp/B01AU6IOSS/ https://smile.amazon.com/Marshal-7200RPM-Internal-MAL36000NS...
merb 10y ago
well I also didn't tought bad about MacOS sierra and I'm a developer. What I really hated was iOS 10. I mean after ~9 years they move the goddamit camera to the lockscreen right side, so that I open the camera since I always "played" with the lockscreen before and that always stresses me. Also why should I want to access everything from the lockscreen? this is just stupid. UX changes that do more harm than good. Edit: Oh and Clock Sleep timer swipe delete, doesn't work anymore. If I put a Clock into "sleep" and than still woke up after 5 minutes I can't remove the sleeped timer.
- eridius 10y ago
  Press firmly (a.k.a. 3D touch) on the timer on your lock screen to get at the options.
  - merb 10y ago
    I didn't had an iphone 6 until today.
    - eridius 10y ago
      I was under the impression that one of the iOS 10 betas added support for getting at notification options without 3D touch on devices that don't support it, but since all of my personal devices support it I can't actually test that (and the development device I use is intentionally still running iOS 9).
  - merb 10y ago
    Update, yeah with an iPhone 6 it works
  - merb 10y ago
    Update, yeah with an iPhone 6 it works
  - merb 10y ago
    Update, yeah with an iPhone 6 it works
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rbl 10y ago
"In the process of that I have quietly gotten them to backup their documents to the cloud […]" Are you saying you are/would be storing someone else's data "in the cloud" without their consent/knowledge?

by jws 10y ago

CJefferson 10y ago

The 'migrate to the cloud' is no good for backups -- it doesn't put files in the cloud which you actually use regularly!

matt4077 10y ago
I'm pretty sure it does. It just doesn't replace the local copy with a reference to the cloud version. Otherwise it could't synchronize between computers.
mhurron 10y ago
No sync service is good for backing up. Delete it locally and it's deleted remotely, same with making edits to a file.
- toomuchtodo 10y ago
  Dropbox. I disable syncing for certain files, and its only stored in Dropbox. I need access again without using a web browser? I turn on syncing for that folder again and the files are synced back locally within a few seconds to minutes. I priced out getting an external SSD drive ($300 for 1TB). Its cheaper for me to just buy a year of Dropbox at a time (1TB @ $100/year if paid annually). https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/113 https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/113
  - totalrobe 10y ago
    Why would you compare the cost of an SSD in this case? You can get a good 1TB HDD for $50.
    - toomuchtodo 10y ago
      A mechanical drive is more likely to fail if exposed to shock or magnetic fields; unless its safely encased in a rack in a datacenter, its not an acceptable form of data storage.
      - michaelmrose 10y ago
        Citation needed. You don't need for the drive to never ever go bad you just need for primary and backup not to fail in the time window required to replace the drive. Most of planet earth relies primarily on magnetic storage including people outside the data center.
        toomuchtodo 10y ago
        I need citations that mechanical drives will fail from shock or magnetic fields? I'm not going to waste my time googling references for that. > Most of planet earth relies primarily on magnetic storage including people outside the data center. Right. And I'm arguing SSDs are sturdier in that regard when not safe in a chassis somewhere. SSDs can withstand higher shock forces, have no glass platters or mechanical arms that can contact each other, and are not affected by magnetic fields.
        Tiksi 10y ago
        It takes quite a bit of shock force [1] and a pretty insane magnetic field [2] to damage rust. Also you could buy 2 6tb hdds [3] for the price of that single ssd and mirror them for another level of redundancy, so in my book they come out way ahead of ssds and cloud storage for backup/archival purposes. 1: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a-sturdy-companion,758-2.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a-sturdy-companion,758-2... 2: http://superuser.com/questions/568336/what-is-the-tolerable-magnetic-field-in-tesla-for-a-hard-disk http://superuser.com/questions/568336/what-is-the-tolerable-... 3: https://smile.amazon.com/Marshal-7200RPM-Internal-MAL36000NS-T72-Especia%EF%BD%8Cly/dp/B01AU6IOSS/ https://smile.amazon.com/Marshal-7200RPM-Internal-MAL36000NS...

merb 10y ago

well I also didn't tought bad about MacOS sierra and I'm a developer. What I really hated was iOS 10. I mean after ~9 years they move the goddamit camera to the lockscreen right side, so that I open the camera since I always "played" with the lockscreen before and that always stresses me. Also why should I want to access everything from the lockscreen? this is just stupid. UX changes that do more harm than good. Edit: Oh and Clock Sleep timer swipe delete, doesn't work anymore. If I put a Clock into "sleep" and than still woke up after 5 minutes I can't remove the sleeped timer.

eridius 10y ago
Press firmly (a.k.a. 3D touch) on the timer on your lock screen to get at the options.
- merb 10y ago
  I didn't had an iphone 6 until today.
  - eridius 10y ago
    I was under the impression that one of the iOS 10 betas added support for getting at notification options without 3D touch on devices that don't support it, but since all of my personal devices support it I can't actually test that (and the development device I use is intentionally still running iOS 9).
- merb 10y ago
  Update, yeah with an iPhone 6 it works
- merb 10y ago
  Update, yeah with an iPhone 6 it works
- merb 10y ago
  Update, yeah with an iPhone 6 it works
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rbl 10y ago

"In the process of that I have quietly gotten them to backup their documents to the cloud […]" Are you saying you are/would be storing someone else's data "in the cloud" without their consent/knowledge?