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Can you name one Apple product that has decreased in quality since Steve passed? Apple's products today are of higher quality than they've ever been.

zer0defex 10y ago
Can you honestly say Apple products "just work" anymore?
- wodenokoto 10y ago
  My iPhone I would crash when writing long emails in Japanese and took shitty pictures, my iPhone 6 writes emails in all languages and takes great pictures. I would choose an iPhone 6 over any Jobs era phone.
- waterphone 10y ago
  Yes, I have virtually no issues ever with any of my Apple products, including ones I use hard and have done so for years.
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jonknee 10y ago
Well the Mac has been pretty much abandoned: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac
- ceejayoz 10y ago
  Your link shows new Macbooks were released less than six months ago and iMacs less than a year ago. The only things there more than two years old are the MBP non-Retina, which is essentially an obsolete line, and the Mac pro, which Apple has never seemed massively invested in.
  - zer0defex 10y ago
    You mentioned the first two on the list, why not the rest? Oh... right... including those paints a very different picture: Retina MacBook Pro: 491 days since last release Mac Pro: 1007 days since last release Macbook Pro: 1563 days since last release Mac Mini: 706 days since last release Macbook Air: 562 days since last release To be fair, the non-retina Macbook Pro and Macbook Air should be removed from the list as their place in the product line is now occupied by the Retina Macbook Pro and Macbook respectively. That still leaves us with some pretty major product lines looking quite neglected.
    - ceejayoz 10y ago
      > You mentioned the first two on the list, why not the rest? Huh? I mentioned the Macbook Pro and Mac Pro. All the others fall in my "less than two years old" segment.
      - FireBeyond 10y ago
        Retina MacBook Pro... yes, under two years. But lets see, periods between last updates, 247, 251, 280, 294. Average, 268. Current, 491. Nearly twice that. Similar with the iMac - at 344, already beyond the average (which was only pulled way out of whack by one 577 day refresh cycle, otherwise it would have been in the 270 day range. MacBook Air. Average of 350 days, now seven months more... Mac Mini, similar. There isn't any way that you can spin this in a way that says Apple isn't neglecting the Mac.
  - FireBeyond 10y ago
    I feel really happy for all those high end Mac users stuck with the Apple Garbage Can. You're right, they seem entirely disinterested. They tossed it over the fence three years ago. And to rub salt in the wound they still charge the same price now as the did at launch for Ivy Bridge processors!
- freehunter 10y ago
  But on the other hand, production volume of the Apple Watch was absolutely abysmal while Steve Jobs was alive.

zer0defex 10y ago

Can you honestly say Apple products "just work" anymore?

wodenokoto 10y ago
My iPhone I would crash when writing long emails in Japanese and took shitty pictures, my iPhone 6 writes emails in all languages and takes great pictures. I would choose an iPhone 6 over any Jobs era phone.
waterphone 10y ago
Yes, I have virtually no issues ever with any of my Apple products, including ones I use hard and have done so for years.

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jonknee 10y ago

Well the Mac has been pretty much abandoned: http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac

ceejayoz 10y ago
Your link shows new Macbooks were released less than six months ago and iMacs less than a year ago. The only things there more than two years old are the MBP non-Retina, which is essentially an obsolete line, and the Mac pro, which Apple has never seemed massively invested in.
- zer0defex 10y ago
  You mentioned the first two on the list, why not the rest? Oh... right... including those paints a very different picture: Retina MacBook Pro: 491 days since last release Mac Pro: 1007 days since last release Macbook Pro: 1563 days since last release Mac Mini: 706 days since last release Macbook Air: 562 days since last release To be fair, the non-retina Macbook Pro and Macbook Air should be removed from the list as their place in the product line is now occupied by the Retina Macbook Pro and Macbook respectively. That still leaves us with some pretty major product lines looking quite neglected.
  - ceejayoz 10y ago
    > You mentioned the first two on the list, why not the rest? Huh? I mentioned the Macbook Pro and Mac Pro. All the others fall in my "less than two years old" segment.
    - FireBeyond 10y ago
      Retina MacBook Pro... yes, under two years. But lets see, periods between last updates, 247, 251, 280, 294. Average, 268. Current, 491. Nearly twice that. Similar with the iMac - at 344, already beyond the average (which was only pulled way out of whack by one 577 day refresh cycle, otherwise it would have been in the 270 day range. MacBook Air. Average of 350 days, now seven months more... Mac Mini, similar. There isn't any way that you can spin this in a way that says Apple isn't neglecting the Mac.
- FireBeyond 10y ago
  I feel really happy for all those high end Mac users stuck with the Apple Garbage Can. You're right, they seem entirely disinterested. They tossed it over the fence three years ago. And to rub salt in the wound they still charge the same price now as the did at launch for Ivy Bridge processors!
freehunter 10y ago
But on the other hand, production volume of the Apple Watch was absolutely abysmal while Steve Jobs was alive.