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No useful new features for power users...I am a bit disappointed.

by gcatalfamo 10y ago

nicky0 10y ago
I guess you won't be buying it then.
- DoritosMan 10y ago
  The update is free?
  - nicky0 10y ago
    Is that a statement or a question? Yes, it is free.
    - aeturnum 10y ago
      I don't know why he asked, but I was confused about your statement. I wasn't sure of your intent. Were you asking if the user "did not buy it" metaphorically? Or were you suggesting that because the update is free (therefore impossible to buy), users should restrain (or properly frame) their criticism?
      - DigitalJack 10y ago
        1) It's free. It's not like they took something from you. 2) You don't have to install it. 3) If you don't like it, move on and quit bitching about it.
      - nicky0 10y ago
        The latter - and you expressed it a lot better than I did.
- gcatalfamo 10y ago
  I don't get your sarcasm. It's free, what is there to buy?! I have been using it for roughly 12 hours and, as I said, it's kind of underwhelming in terms of new features. It's not "bad" in any way, it just doesn't feel fresh or more powerful unless you are longing for iOS features on a desktop OS.
  - nicky0 10y ago
    > It's free, what is there to buy?! Yes, that was my point. The idea was to poke fun at your expressed disappointment at this free update. However, I forgot that to attempt sarcasm on the internet is never a good idea. And that also my comment was poor contribution either way. Sorry.
  - zer0defex 10y ago
    As a fellow Apple power user, I share your sentiment regarding the sarcasm. It seems like a change happened in the past few years that to love something, means to love it unconditionally, to the point that you must be blind to it's weaknesses and flaws. Blind to the point that to acknowledge them or, gasp, speak of them, is sacrilege. That's a movement I simply can't buy into. How can anything improve if it can't even acknowledge and be honest with itself about what it's weaknesses and failings are? Introspection isn't always pleasant, but it's quite often the path toward becoming something better.
    - nicky0 10y ago
      The irony is that if Apple had simply said "there will be no update this year", people would probably say "fine, the current OS is good enough for now". But when they do make an fairly small update, it is "disappointing" because it didn't add much. It's neophilia - always wanting "new stuff" for its own sake, even though what we have is pretty good. A useful criticism would point out exactly what desired additions or changes were missing from the update. However, I'm mainly seeing a lot of general disappointment vaguely around "lack of newness".
      - zer0defex 10y ago
- CJefferson 10y ago
  No I won't, I spend the day downgrading my machine back to El Capitan (first time I've ever done an OS downgrade). Also, unless things improve rapidly, my next machine won't be a mac.
  - nicky0 10y ago
    You were so offended by lack of new features that you actually downgraded? I suspect there must be more to it than that.
    - CJefferson 10y ago
      No, I downgraded because cocoa builds of emacs randomly crash (fixed in git head), as does TeXShop (not obviously fixed yet). Also some other apps weren't running because of gatekeeper changes I didn't bother to investigate seriously. The lack of new features meant that I had no motivation to try to fix my problems / run git heads of software / figure out gatekeeper.
  - tracker1 10y ago
    My El Capitan upgrade failed, and I wound up having to do a clean wipe and install... Which wasn't too bad, except I happened to be on vacation, and the wireless where I was staying went out and did the install tethered to my phone (that was an expensive phone bill).
    - nicolas_t 10y ago
      Ever since an upgrade to yosemite corrupted my partition, I never ever do upgrades on vacations (nor do I upgrade when it's just out)... I don't trust Apple's QA enough
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - pier25 10y ago
    I'm also seriously considering moving away from macOS after a decade. The hardware situation is ridiculous and macOS isn't as stable and streamlined as it used to be.
sbuk 10y ago
What would they look like? The main things I'm interested in is stability and compatibility, anything else is a bonus. I have to admit, I hate the expression "power user", it so smug and self righteous.
- deleted 10y ago
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brians 10y ago
Much better PDF search. Swift 3. Clipboard sharing for people for whom iOS is a productivity system. PiP for entertaining the kid in the lap of the power user.

No useful new features for power users...I am a bit disappointed.

nicky0 10y ago

I guess you won't be buying it then.

DoritosMan 10y ago
The update is free?
- nicky0 10y ago
  Is that a statement or a question? Yes, it is free.
  - aeturnum 10y ago
    I don't know why he asked, but I was confused about your statement. I wasn't sure of your intent. Were you asking if the user "did not buy it" metaphorically? Or were you suggesting that because the update is free (therefore impossible to buy), users should restrain (or properly frame) their criticism?
    - DigitalJack 10y ago
      1) It's free. It's not like they took something from you. 2) You don't have to install it. 3) If you don't like it, move on and quit bitching about it.
    - nicky0 10y ago
      The latter - and you expressed it a lot better than I did.
gcatalfamo 10y ago
I don't get your sarcasm. It's free, what is there to buy?! I have been using it for roughly 12 hours and, as I said, it's kind of underwhelming in terms of new features. It's not "bad" in any way, it just doesn't feel fresh or more powerful unless you are longing for iOS features on a desktop OS.
- nicky0 10y ago
  > It's free, what is there to buy?! Yes, that was my point. The idea was to poke fun at your expressed disappointment at this free update. However, I forgot that to attempt sarcasm on the internet is never a good idea. And that also my comment was poor contribution either way. Sorry.
- zer0defex 10y ago
  As a fellow Apple power user, I share your sentiment regarding the sarcasm. It seems like a change happened in the past few years that to love something, means to love it unconditionally, to the point that you must be blind to it's weaknesses and flaws. Blind to the point that to acknowledge them or, gasp, speak of them, is sacrilege. That's a movement I simply can't buy into. How can anything improve if it can't even acknowledge and be honest with itself about what it's weaknesses and failings are? Introspection isn't always pleasant, but it's quite often the path toward becoming something better.
  - nicky0 10y ago
    The irony is that if Apple had simply said "there will be no update this year", people would probably say "fine, the current OS is good enough for now". But when they do make an fairly small update, it is "disappointing" because it didn't add much. It's neophilia - always wanting "new stuff" for its own sake, even though what we have is pretty good. A useful criticism would point out exactly what desired additions or changes were missing from the update. However, I'm mainly seeing a lot of general disappointment vaguely around "lack of newness".
    - zer0defex 10y ago
CJefferson 10y ago
No I won't, I spend the day downgrading my machine back to El Capitan (first time I've ever done an OS downgrade). Also, unless things improve rapidly, my next machine won't be a mac.
- nicky0 10y ago
  You were so offended by lack of new features that you actually downgraded? I suspect there must be more to it than that.
  - CJefferson 10y ago
    No, I downgraded because cocoa builds of emacs randomly crash (fixed in git head), as does TeXShop (not obviously fixed yet). Also some other apps weren't running because of gatekeeper changes I didn't bother to investigate seriously. The lack of new features meant that I had no motivation to try to fix my problems / run git heads of software / figure out gatekeeper.
- tracker1 10y ago
  My El Capitan upgrade failed, and I wound up having to do a clean wipe and install... Which wasn't too bad, except I happened to be on vacation, and the wireless where I was staying went out and did the install tethered to my phone (that was an expensive phone bill).
  - nicolas_t 10y ago
    Ever since an upgrade to yosemite corrupted my partition, I never ever do upgrades on vacations (nor do I upgrade when it's just out)... I don't trust Apple's QA enough
- deleted 10y ago
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- pier25 10y ago
  I'm also seriously considering moving away from macOS after a decade. The hardware situation is ridiculous and macOS isn't as stable and streamlined as it used to be.

sbuk 10y ago

What would they look like? The main things I'm interested in is stability and compatibility, anything else is a bonus. I have to admit, I hate the expression "power user", it so smug and self righteous.

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brians 10y ago

Much better PDF search. Swift 3. Clipboard sharing for people for whom iOS is a productivity system. PiP for entertaining the kid in the lap of the power user.