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What the North Korean internet really looks like
- vocatus_gate 10y agoI briefly managed to access their dated-looking Facebook clone, "Friend," and was attempting to register for an account when apparently it either went down due to traffic from the leak or they noticed the external access and blocked it. I checked from various different IP's (AWS, home, work, other proxies) and suddenly none could access it. Felt strange to get a brief glimpse into some of their internal web presence. In case it's still down here's a screenshot just prior to losing access: http://i.imgur.com/dAeuozr.png http://i.imgur.com/dAeuozr.png
- pawadu 10y agoWell, at least its not full of ads :)
- mhurron 10y agoAds or oppressive government regime Tough call.
- IntelMiner 10y ago1984 or Brave New World?
- WaxProlix 10y agoSome would say omnipresent ads are a symptom of a different kind of oppressive regime, maybe? At a minimum, they don't seem to be diametrically opposed or anything.
- bmmayer1 10y agoWho would say that?
- jakebasile 10y agoYes, seeing ads to pay for the websites you use is definitely comparable to living in a police state bent on oppressing free will. They aren't diametrically opposed because they are unrelated. I do not doubt that "some would say" this though.
- djschnei 10y agoWho would say that? lol, that is absurd. Sounds like someone has been reading some Marxist Humanism. They do seem drastically opposed; in a system that disregards personal property rights, you can't use your property to better your and your customer's lives by offering services or products to them that you both deem mutually beneficial. In a system without property rights, the 'ads' are called government propaganda.
- sqeaky 10y agoThere are many kinds of oppression one might be oppressed in some way that still allows a semblance of property ownership.
- djschnei 10y agoThe ability to own property doesn't encompass property rights; especially when "own" is used as loosely as it is today. If property rights are entirely respected, how can someone be oppressed?
- cust0m 10y agoIs easy to talk about property rights after destroy native population and give the lands to a minority when all the rest have only option to sell their work force. The problem with property is its historical construction was not legitim.
- djschnei 10y agoYou almost formed a complete sentence. I didn't do any of those things.
- valarauca1 10y agoyour property to better your and your customer's lives While conveniently ignoring everyone else. But hey why help them? They aren't paying you...
- EpicEng 10y agoI guess 'some' would be pretty stupid then
- idlewords 10y agoWhy not both?
- dredmorbius 10y agobow
- arcticbull 10y agoIt is, they're just all for Kim Jong-Un :) little more subtle though.
- smaili 10y agoThanks for the share. Would love to see the markup and assets, particularly if/any 3rd party libraries are used and the kind of browsers that are supported.
- vocatus_gate 10y agoI do have some wget dump of the site that I'm looking through now. I'll try to remember to post a link here when I'm done.
- notyourwork 10y agoCould you post a dump before you start so others can look instead of waiting for you?
- mtmail 10y agoI remember looking at the markup of starcon.net.kp "Best Korea's Social Network" and it was based on https://phpdolphin.com/ https://phpdolphin.com/
- supergirl 10y agothat looks nothing like facebook and it's not even a social network website, it's the "Committee for Cultural Relations" website.
- dominotw 10y agoSide note: Lovers and Despot movies is releasing this friday online. http://www.magpictures.com/profile.aspx?id=86c0a9e9-0b60-4b30-99d5-b5e352f6df33 http://www.magpictures.com/profile.aspx?id=86c0a9e9-0b60-4b3...
- wonkaWonka 10y agoThe title is: The Lovers & The Despot Not: Lovers and Despot movies
- skandl 10y agoThanks for that. Any other NK-related films you recommend that go beyond surface shock value (e.g. Vice documentaries) or ignorant comedy (The Interview)?
- dominotw 10y agoAnother really good one from this year. I highly recommend this. Under the Sun http://www.icarusfilms.com/new2016/unsun.html http://www.icarusfilms.com/new2016/unsun.html
- strictnein 10y agoHonestly, if you tried to write a fake story about Kim Jong Un visiting a farm, how different would it be from this? "Kim Jong Un Visits Farm No. 1116 Run by KPA Unit 810" "Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army Kim Jong Un, chairman of the Workers' Party of Korea and chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the DPRK, gave field guidance to Farm No. 1116 under KPA Unit 810." http://rodong.rep.kp./en/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&newsID=2016-09-13-0001 http://rodong.rep.kp./en/index.php?strPageID=SF01_02_01&news...
- Shivetya 10y agohonestly it would be refreshing is stories about Western leaders were about their visiting average citizens in non premier jobs instead of running about constantly on the road to election even if they aren't running for an office themselves.
- strictnein 10y agoThere's plenty of campaign stops at factories, construction sites, state fairs, and schools. And if you've seen the pictures of this farm visit, there isn't an "average" person in sight. Just large mounds of the best crops for him to inspect.
- drzaiusapelord 10y agoNorth Korean dictator culture involves being an "instant expert" for pretty much all industry. I don't know how well KJU does it, but his father would show up at a workplace and start giving random advice. Everyone would applaud his genius and take notes. Lots of face-saving smiles, photo ops, crying, etc would follow. Then state media would report increased productivity in that plant or farm. Its incredible people have to live like this. Dictatorships are hell.
- strictnein 10y agoI find the note taking in most of his photos the most interesting. Sometimes you'll spot upwards of 10 people jotting down something.
- 13of40 10y agoMeanwhile, the American internet contains a whopping 1,715,757 domains as of March 2016 [1]. I apologize for the sarcasm, but .kp isn't the extent of the North Korean internet. For example, which of those sites do North Korean generals use to check their email? None? So there's more internet somewhere? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.us
- sqeaky 10y agoWhy would they even have email? They have a country of 50 million or so functional slaves. They could use couriers for every and dodge the entire USA Signals Intelligence Effort. The nominal cost of life over there is only slightly higher than email is over here.
- bdrool 10y agoSoon it will be revealed that North Korea had actually saved up a bunch of zero days and just pwned the machines of millions of curious people around the world who loaded up these sites when they hit the news yesterday.
- meerita 10y agoI literally waited 10 mins to see a full rendered homepage.